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Sekhmet



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: Alexandria, Egypt

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Lost and confused... Reply with quote

I'm a total newbie looking for a job either in China or Egypt. However, every single school I apply to gets shot down by somebody!!! Is there any definitive way to be sure that a school you apply to is worth working for?? And what is an average wage for a newbie?? I keep getting completely different quotes...
Please help!!!! I have no idea what I'm doing... Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: LOST AND CONFUSED Reply with quote

Hello

I was also a newbie (and probably still am compared to others) seven months ago. I came with a Recruiter as time was short - the Semester was about to commence and I realised that I knew absolutely nothing about where I wanted to be etc.

I do not advise coming with a Recruiter necessarily but you have to put down a list of pros and cons as far as location, wages, benefits etc. and then go for it.

I think my School is wonderful, but obviously not eveyone agrees with me as we have had three teachers do a "midnight run" in the past two months.

The point I am trying to make is that even though I love this School and intend staying for a few years, you may hate it. It all depends on your wants, needs and expectations. It is a very individual thing.

The best thing is to decide by location etc. and then only sign up for 6 months so that you can move on if you are not happy.

Good luck
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a 'newbie' Rhonda is pretty clued in. Some people love certain jobs/places and others hate. This profession is all about YOU. I always think that when you go somewhere new try and have no/negative expectations and then you won't be disappointed
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Shaman



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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Location: Hammertown

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
For a 'newbie' Rhonda is pretty clued in. Some people love certain jobs/places and others hate. This profession is all about YOU. I always think that when you go somewhere new try and have no/negative expectations and then you won't be disappointed


Definitely. The higher the expectations, the greater chance of them being dashed against the rocks. Realistic expectations will allow you to be pleasantly surprised.

Some more suggestions:
* Find someplace where you can indulge in a preferred hobby. It can prove a great relief during difficult times.
* Urban or rural? Your backdrop plays a heavy part in how happy you will be.
* Take complaints with a grain of salt. Some people may have legitimate axes to grind, others could just be natural born whiners. A few complaints is to be expected; a bunch of them is more likely a trend.

Good luck.

Shaman
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason I am "clued in" guys is because I have been around A LONG TIME. With age, comes wisdom, although it is about the ONLY good thing that comes with age!
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Shaman



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Location: Hammertown

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhonda Place wrote:
With age, comes wisdom, although it is about the ONLY good thing that comes with age!


What about retirement? Don't forget that. Wink

Shaman
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaman wrote:
Rhonda Place wrote:
With age, comes wisdom, although it is about the ONLY good thing that comes with age!


What about retirement? Don't forget that. Wink

Shaman


Grandchildren too! Some days I'd lke to skip over the child-rearing phase and go straight to grandkids. Guess you can't have one without the other.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject: It's not just how many years Reply with quote

Dear Rhonda,

"With age, comes wisdom . . ."

Don't sell yourself short; it's by no means an automatic process. There are plenty of dumb as dirt geezers and geezerettes out there. Experience can be a great teacher, but lots of us are lousy students. A longer life just gives us more chances to learn - but all too many don't take advantage of the opportunities. You have.
Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaman

Retirement is the same as boredom to me! I cannot ever imagine really retiring as my mind is always too active. I think if you retire, you are just sitting around in God's waiting room - and I do not intend to do that!

As regards to grandchildren, yes they are great but I will not be seeing mine again after the next visit to Australia. As long as they are well looked after and doing okay they do not need me.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhonda Place wrote:
Shaman
As regards to grandchildren, yes they are great but I will not be seeing mine again after the next visit to Australia. As long as they are well looked after and doing okay they do not need me.


Rhonda
I wish my parents were as easygoing and accepting. Our parents were pretty hurt when we "took their grandchild away". She was only 7 months old at the time and I'm sure it was/is tough on them.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Lost and confused... Reply with quote

Back to the original question:

Sekhmet wrote:
I'm a total newbie looking for a job either in China or Egypt. However, every single school I apply to gets shot down by somebody!!! Is there any definitive way to be sure that a school you apply to is worth working for?? And what is an average wage for a newbie??


No school is perfect - so of course any school you are interested in will be "shot down by somebody".

Decide what you want to do and where you want to work. Ask the school for references from former/current teachers. ANy reputable school will have no issues with offering up such references, so if they don't do so, keep looking.

Wages vary greatly from lcoation to location. Typically in SE Asia you'll get paid a salary that is high for a local but low compared to back home. Usually you'll make enough that you can live reasonably well - or live modestly and save up a little money in the bank.
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Shaman



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhonda Place wrote:
Retirement is the same as boredom to me! I cannot ever imagine really retiring as my mind is always too active.


Rhonda.

An active mind rarely gets bored. Lots of spare time to let the mind roam. Smile

Shaman
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