Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Teaching with a non-esl credential

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
aahz



Joined: 13 Mar 2010
Posts: 38

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Teaching with a non-esl credential Reply with quote

Hello, I'm a credentialed math/social studies teacher in California. I completed the program last year but I could not find a job in the current economic times. I'm completely at a loss at what to do.

I'm thinking of going overseas to teach, both to keep myself employed, travel, and to keep doing what I love doing in a time when teachers are being laid off left and right.

But is an ESL certificate more important/less important than actual teaching training? I mean, I did a year long program, taught ESL students, worked as a substitute even before I started the program and have been subbing ever since... but I still wonder at how difficult or competitive it would be without getting an actual TESL certificate.
I'm assuming not, but I wanted to hear your opinions.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 3292
Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Aahz! I think your assumption is correct: most countries simply require that one be a graduate in order to work there as an EFL teacher, so the degree rather than any subsequent TEFL cert is what's most important, and your credentialed teacher status would actually make you eligible for some jobs (e.g. in international schools catering to expat and local rich kids) that non-credentialed grads wouldn't be, even if they had a TEFL cert and you didn't. Wink

Here's a recent Newbie forum thread (though there have been others) about the need for, and thus the potential quality of, cert-level training in ELT:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=79538

You might find this interesting also:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=68778
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aahz



Joined: 13 Mar 2010
Posts: 38

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 3292
Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, forgot to mention though that in terms of strictly TEFL, it would be just entry-level work that you'd be eligible for (which in Japan for example would mean just eikaiwa/private language school work, or assisting as an AET in public schools) - you'd need an MA in AL/TEFL/TESOL/ELT (let alone a TEFL cert!) to teach EFL in universities (in Japan, the ME etc), say. But you'd be able to suss all that out from the job ads, and like I say, you are definitely qualified and experienced enough for whatever entry-level ELT work certainly! Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aahz



Joined: 13 Mar 2010
Posts: 38

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I wasn't planning on teaching at a university. I need some years of experience teaching. It's very difficult to find that experience right now in California.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China