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heiko127
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 Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:59 am Post subject: What happened to GEOS? |
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Hello,
I'm graduating next month so I'm looking for possible ESL jobs in Japan. I found GEOS last month and even contacted them about the best time to apply and I was told it was now so I go to apply and the Web site is completely gone. I heard that GEOS Australia has gone down but has the same happened to the U.S. branch? Is it worth contacting them again? |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say don't waste your time. Pursue the many other options available. There have been recent rumblings of GEOS. Nothing confirmed yet. |
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heiko127
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| I see. If you don't mind me asking, what have you heard? I know someone who is working for them now and when I asked him about the Web site thing, he had no idea and said it's probably because they've stopped recruiting from America. He was convinced that everything was fine... |
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Bread
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| GEOS is having serious problems. Don't apply to them if you want to have a job. I'm mostly worried about finding a new job before the whole thing sinks and all the teachers swarm out into the market. |
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heiko127
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, that's really scary. Thanks for the advice. |
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Imseriouslylost
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| A lot of the ALTs that came to the company I work for are GEOS refugees... They're either just firing a lot of people or they're shrinking. This is just through the grapevine stuff so I'll talk to them and report back. |
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Hot-Carl
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: What happened to GEOS? |
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| heiko127 wrote: |
Hello,
I'm graduating next month so I'm looking for possible ESL jobs in Japan. I found GEOS last month and even contacted them about the best time to apply and I was told it was now so I go to apply and the Web site is completely gone. I heard that GEOS Australia has gone down but has the same happened to the U.S. branch? Is it worth contacting them again? |
I don't think they are hiring from abroad; just from within Japan. I'm not 100% sure, but it does seem to be the case.
Wanting to work for them is about as smart of idea as wanting to work for NOVA in 2007.
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| He was convinced that everything was fine... |
You're friend is a moron with his head up his @ss. Geos in Australia, New Zealand and Turkey have now closed, or are closing (Turkey, apparently). Many schools have closed or are closing in Japan. In the very BEST scenario, they are shrinking substantially.
Aeon, ECC and Shane are still doing okay (to varying degrees), so it seems. |
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womblingfree
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Bread wrote: |
| I'm mostly worried about finding a new job before the whole thing sinks and all the teachers swarm out into the market. |
Most of them would go home and the rest will find something else until they get fed up and go home as well. A very few will stay for more than a couple of years.
I doubt that the streets will be swarmed with unemployed eikaiwa teachers for very long. The whole thing that was attractive about going to Japan was that it was pretty easy to get hired from abroad and the company would set you up. Once that's gone then the Japan-teaching circuit will become a far less attractive prospect to graduates.
Go fruit-picking in Australia, raving in Goa or backpacking round Europe instead  |
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heiko127
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, does this seem like the beginning of the end for foreigners teaching in Japan? |
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razorhideki
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, that "beginning of the end" started about a decade or so ago.
Wasn't GEOS involved in some kind of gov. investigation about its tax remittances(or lack thereof) a few years ago?
GEOS seems to be a good bet...to be the next NOVA.... |
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Apsara
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| heiko127 wrote: |
| Wow, does this seem like the beginning of the end for foreigners teaching in Japan? |
Various-sized eikaiwas have been going under at regular intervals as long as I've been in Japan, the most noteworthy being Nova in 2007. Japanese people are still going to keep wanting to learn English from native speakers, and eikaiwa bankruptcies don't make any difference to ALT positions, so no, I very much doubt it's the beginning of the end for foreigners teaching in Japan.
It seems that it's a bit harder to get a job now than it was about 10 years ago, but back then the joke was that if you had a pulse you could get hired. Maybe it's a good thing that that's not the case now! |
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womblingfree
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| Apsara wrote: |
It seems that it's a bit harder to get a job now than it was about 10 years ago, but back then the joke was that if you had a pulse you could get hired. Maybe it's a good thing that that's not the case now! |
Maybe one day people will actually need some teacher -training before being let loose on the public and young children in a school environment?
In most countries you won't even be let through the doors of a school in an official capacity without a thorough police criminal record check. You couldn't clean the toilets without one and certainly wouldn't be able to teach them!
If unregulated private eikaiwa and cowboy agencies die out it's no loss.
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Cool Teacher
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| Apsara wrote: |
| It seems that it's a bit harder to get a job now than it was about 10 years ago, but back then the joke was that if you had a pulse you could get hired. Maybe it's a good thing that that's not the case now! |
But a pulse is all I have!
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womblingfree
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Cool Teacher wrote: |
But a pulse is all I have!
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| womblingfree wrote: |
Go fruit-picking in Australia, raving in Goa or backpacking round Europe instead |
Seriously!
Or if teaching's your bag, then there are still opportunities in China, Hong Kong, Korea and Taiwan that require little more than an ability to speak. Hell, there's still stuff in Japan if you're persistent. |
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heiko127
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: |
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While fruit-picking in Australia does sound exciting, I'm not sure if they pay for that.
I really am set on Japan primarily because I've lived there before for about half a year and I speak the language. I'd try Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc but I don't speak Chinese/Mandarin/Cantonese so I wouldn't feel comfortable living there as I would in Japan.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback. I'm going to toss GEOS out and continue my hunting... |
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