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Seasoo



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject: return flight Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I understand that you must have a return flight to enter china, is this correct? also, I'm coming on an L visa, must my return flight be within 30 days of my entry? or can it be one year from now? I dont want to have to pay $100 to change my flight.

I need to know soon.
Much appreciated.
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askiptochina



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I entered last weekend on a one-way ticket and was never asked about it. I had an L visa with me (tourist visa). They did ask for an address and contact info back home.

I was reluctant to give them anything, but they really wanted a contact number back in the US, even though I am not going to be there for some time.

With that said, if you know when you will leave China, then it might be cheaper to get a round trip anyway. For me, I might work in China, so I am not sure when I will return and if I will go back to the US or another country. So, I only got a one way ticket.

Also, L visa is good for 90 days (I am from the US). That is my understanding, and that it cannot be extended.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you do not have to have a return flight to enter China.

L visa for 90 days? Did they change it? The last one I had in '09 was for 30 days.
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askiptochina



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"US citizens may apply for a Single Entry (valid for 3-6 months), Double Entry (valid for 6 months), Multiple Entry (valid for 6 months or 12 months) "L" Visa as needed." - http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84246.htm

I am getting my L visa changed to a student visa and the school said they would apply for the student visa to last the length of my L visa. Either they are intending on screwing me because I already paid them for 3 months or they know it is a 3 month or longer visa.

Since I just read on the site above it could be longer than 3 months, I'll look more into this.
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askiptochina



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the finer details, I see also mentioned that when you extend your visa it doesn't extend after your first 30 days but when you apply. So, you get less than 60 total first time and less than 90 the second time.

I don't know how true it is.

If you overstay, the following site states you won't be fined up to 10 days.

"Q10. If my visa expired and overstay in Shanghai, what can I do and how much fine should I pay?

A: As the Chinese immigration law, if your visa expired less than 10 days, it's not necessary to pay any fine, you have to go to the immigration office, the officer will ask some questiones and put down your words in writing and make a record. They will also notice you don't break that again. If your visa expired more than 10 days, they will charge you fine, the fine is 500RMB per day except the first 10 days, and the maxmium is 5000RMB. for example, if you overstay 12 days, they will charge (12-10)*500=1000RMB. Following are the contact information of immigration office, you can go to there when your visa expired:

Address: No.1500 Min Shen Rd. , PuDong, Shanghai, China.
Telephone: 021-28951900"

http://www.visainchina.com/faqs.htm#q10

So, it looks like you can get 90 full days if you overstay and play the game right.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the multiple entry L visas (NOT student visas) mean that you still have to leave the country every thirty days but you can return with the same visa within the valid period.
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randyj



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

askiptochina wrote:
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With that said, if you know when you will leave China, then it might be cheaper to get a round trip anyway.
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Last year I bought a round trip with the idea of returning stateside during the winter vacation. My plans changed, and I remained in China. It turns out that the ticket was based on a six-month tariff, so revising it was extraordinarily expensive. Don't get caught like I did.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit I'm a little confused. In the past, I had a one-year (L) Visa, with only one entry on it.
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askiptochina



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
I believe the multiple entry L visas (NOT student visas) mean that you still have to leave the country every thirty days but you can return with the same visa within the valid period.


If you have a site that supports this, please share. From what I see, you can extend 2 times if you go like 5 days before each 30 day period is up.

As for the 1 year L visa, maybe it was a spousal visa. 1 year seems long for just a typical tourist visa. Perhaps you also paid more for it. Even if you only entered once, it might have been a multiple entry visa.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A multiple entry visa was recommended to me by an Embassy employee in Hong Kong after I left the mainland to get a Z visa but didn't have the proper paperwork with me. I had to return to the mainland with ANOTHER L visa and she suggested that I get a multiple entry visa (same price). It was my understanding that the "30 days on the mainland" rule still applied, but once you left, you could return with the same visa WITHIN THE VALID PERIOD of the visa. I never had to use it (I got my Z visa the next time I went to Hong Kong), but I think that was how it worked.
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TexasHighway



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are in the US, I recommend using www.mychinavisa.com. The have always provided me with good service and offer 1 year multiple entry L and F visas. According to their web site,
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The time you could actually stay in China, or "duration of stay after entry" is usually 30-90 days per entry. Generally speaking, the Chinese Consulate in San Francisco issues 30-day visas, Houston 60 and Chicago 90. If you wish to get more than 30 or 60 days, you must write 90 days on the Chinese Visa Application Form.
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Seasoo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. So it seems pretty much undisputed that you can enter China with a one way ticket. Am I right in assuming that? If so that would be great, because I am also going to find work in China but don't plan on staying there or going back home after the contract.

Thanks for the help everyone, you probably just saved me about $500.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can enter China with a one way ticket. Am I right in assuming that?


Yes.
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askiptochina



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am I right in assuming that?


I am pretty sure. As I stated earlier, I entered on March 13 with only a one way ticket.

However, one thing someone might be able to clarify me on is that when I filled out the form on the plane for immigration one half had "departure" and the other half had "arrival". It didn't make sense to me because I departed from Korea and I was about to arrive in China. So, for the flight number, I just put the same one down.

When I went through immigration they gave me back the half for departure. I don't know why I needed to fill that out at all.

Is that for people who are taking another flight and plan on departing from China to go elsewhere? I just filled it out cause I saw other people sitting next to me filling it out also.
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thessy



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

askiptochina wrote:


However, one thing someone might be able to clarify me on is that when I filled out the form on the plane for immigration one half had "departure" and the other half had "arrival". It didn't make sense to me because I departed from Korea and I was about to arrive in China. So, for the flight number, I just put the same one down.

When I went through immigration they gave me back the half for departure. I don't know why I needed to fill that out at all.

Is that for people who are taking another flight and plan on departing from China to go elsewhere? I just filled it out cause I saw other people sitting next to me filling it out also.


You are an interesting character, askiptochina Razz

The "departure" card is given because it is assumed that when you enter China as a non-Chinese that you will, at some point, "depart" from China. You're supposed to hold on to that half of the Arrival/Departure form until you leave, but they are available at the airport in case for some reason you need a replacement when it comes time to go.
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