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tjc



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Lecturer Positions for Brits? Reply with quote

Hi there,

With a PhD in Education and an MA in Applied Linguistics, which universities can I consider applying for work in the UAE?

I have three years of TESL experience but no university level lecturing experience. On the one hand, I've been told that working in the Gulf and/or China is great for a new lecturer; on the other hand, I've heard that without sufficient experience, I may face difficulty in finding a job.

I asked this question on the Saudi forum and thankfully was advised not to waste time over there. There was a lot of positive feedback about the UAE however, and I've been hearing positive things about the place for a while now actually.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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Afra



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking for a lecturing position, the UAE is not the place. If you are looking for a teaching job in ESL, then you probably don't have the experience. You don't say if you have ever taught academic English.
Being British is neither here nor there.
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Pikgitina



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see why 3 years' experience wouldn't count as sufficient experience for teaching ESL, especially if you are so well qualified.

I don't know much about the place, but you could try the American University of Sharjah (AUS), which gets good reviews on here and is sometimes described as 'perhaps the only real university in the UAE'.

I suppose the departments of education at other tertiary institutions might also be interested, even without lecturing experience.

Do your research carefully so that you are sufficiently prepared if and when you do decide to teach in the Gulf. Students lack an intrinsic desire to know more about the world and to learn new things. When in class, teachers are either engaged in crowd control, asking students why they have yet again not brought stationery to class, negotiating rewards in order to get students to focus, etc. There are many reasons for this, all of which have been discussed endlessly on these boards.

The students are, however, malice-free, spontaneous, enthusiastic talkers, 'young' for their age (compared to their counterparts in other countries) and often keen to please their teacher.

My colleagues and I sigh a lot Laughing and wonder what's it all about - if there's really any meaning to it all. The answer is no - meaning will have to be found elsewhere, in other words in your personal life. That's assuming that meaning is a priority for us all, of course.

Advice that often goes around is that you have to remind yourself why you're in the Gulf: money, long holidays, lots of opportunities to travel (probably while you're able to save, too).

Honestly, if anyone's looking for a satisfying academic career, this is not the place where they should come. All of us who come to live here end up compromising some things in order to be able to gain something else.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Lecturer Positions for Brits? Reply with quote

tjc wrote:
Hi there,

I asked this question on the Saudi forum and thankfully was advised not to waste time over there. There was a lot of positive feedback about the UAE however, and I've been hearing positive things about the place for a while now actually.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance


Lucy! You got some 'splainin' to do! Laughing Thanks for taking the hint(s)! Pik always offers great advice...as does VS! Very Happy

NCTBA
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again tjc... did you have a chance to look at the websites of the places I suggested? They may give you more information on job openings to help you to focus your questions.

Pik's suggestion of AUS is good, but as the name implies, it does tend to lean towards Americans... which can be problematic for someone trying to get that first job.

VS
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PeterWilliams



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could think about the British University in Dubai (http://www.buid.ac.ae/buid/html/home.asp) or Middlesex University in Dubai (http://www.mdx.ac/Vacancies.asp?Link=About%20Middlesex%20University%20Dubai&SubLink=Vacancies) who both have Masters in Education programmes - the latter is recruiting for lecturers for that programme. Depends on whether you would prefer to teach ESL or not.
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pikgitina wrote:
Students lack an intrinsic desire to know more about the world and to learn new things.
Wow. . .simply toxic. Your toil, it fails.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Pik is sayin' is the last line of 'Gone wid da Win'". "Tamaroes anudder day". Dat said, I'd hate ta work where he does!

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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
What Pik is sayin' is the last line of 'Gone wid da Win'". "Tamaroes anudder day". Dat said, I'd hate ta work where he does!

NCTBA

Oh, an apologist pointing a gun. Is that unique?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.K., O.K...I apologize for pointing a gun. As fer "unique" lck "has it"! Laughing

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Pikgitina



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazycomputerkids wrote:
Pikgitina wrote:
Students lack an intrinsic desire to know more about the world and to learn new things.
Wow. . .simply toxic. Your toil, it fails.


Sometimes, the truth is unpleasant, it offends and yes, it can even be... toxic.

Until you have experienced where I work and who I teach, you can't really dispute my claim. However, I'll gladly amend my statement by adding that 'many, if not most, lack that intrinsic desire...'. Note that I have always aimed to understand why this is the case, but I will not turn a blind eye and pretend that it is not.
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pikgitina wrote:
Until you have experienced where I work and who I teach, you can't really dispute my claim. However, I'll gladly amend my statement by adding that 'many, if not most, lack that intrinsic desire...'. Note that I have always aimed to understand why this is the case, but I will not turn a blind eye and pretend that it is not.
Truth is not toxic. No child on Earth is without curiosity and find delight in learning. Perhaps a motivation to perform as you expect is what you'd like to be intrinsic, rather than re-work principles of human development.

"Lack that intrinsic desire..."

"that," huh? Oh, the poor dears. Your magnanimity is noted.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazycomputerkids wrote:
Truth is not toxic. No child on Earth is without curiosity and find delight in learning. Perhaps a motivation to perform as you expect is what you'd like to be intrinsic, rather than re-work principles of human development.

"Lack that intrinsic desire..."

"that," huh? Oh, the poor dears. Your magnanimity is noted.


I have a question. When I type this into Google to translate into English, which langauge am I translating from?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I have a question. When I type this into Google to translate into English, which langauge am I translating from?


It depends on your typing ability.
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Pikgitina



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazycomputerkids wrote:
Pikgitina wrote:
Until you have experienced where I work and who I teach, you can't really dispute my claim. However, I'll gladly amend my statement by adding that 'many, if not most, lack that intrinsic desire...'. Note that I have always aimed to understand why this is the case, but I will not turn a blind eye and pretend that it is not.
Truth is not toxic. No child on Earth is without curiosity and find delight in learning. Perhaps a motivation to perform as you expect is what you'd like to be intrinsic, rather than re-work principles of human development.

"Lack that intrinsic desire..."

"that," huh? Oh, the poor dears. Your magnanimity is noted.


I don't mind being critiqued or having my cultural misconceptions exposed. I do, however, stand by the fact that, if you are where you note you are (Tabuk), you do not have sufficient insight to make a fair judgement on my experience.

I accept that I would like my Emirati students (who are not children by the way) to behave in a way that I expect students to behave and that my expectation is based on something completely different, but then I am not the only one. I don't mean this as a cop-out. What I mean is that the system is one that is not based on what would be better suited to them and their needs.

Essentially, non-academic (defined from my perspective) 18-23 year olds have been placed in an academic system and are, of course, expected to perform academically by that system. I believe, that if they had a desire to learn ('desire' and 'learn' here defined from my perspective), they would have risen to the occasion. My colleagues and I observe infinitesimal levels of curiosity - but more often no curiosity.

Quote:
rather than re-work principles of human development


I may be revealing my ignorance very publicly here, but I do not know what that means. It sounds like textbook, touchy-feely, pie-in-the-sky nonsense to me. I am willing to be corrected and learn, however.

My intention is not to attack or offend you, but you point out others' shortcomings very easily and what's more, it feels like you do it from a place way up high, a place which others have not yet reached. I prefer person-to-person, adult-to-adult interaction. So come on down... otherwise your good intentions will continually be diluted.


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