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Pikgitina
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 420 Location: KSA
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Apologies, tjc, this is thread hijacking deluxe!  |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I would have to agree with Pik - but with a caveat. I think that children in the Emirates are not encouraged to ask questions or be curious. The primary school system relies on rote memorization.
I remember arriving in 2001 and asking a student what kind of bird was sitting on the lawn between buildings. The student's reply? Who cares. it's just a bird - determined to find out what kind of bird I asked several more students (between the ages of 18 - 23) and got the same response - sad really.
In my home country, very small children can tell you "that's a robin" "that's a blue jay" "that's a crow" - it's just not something that is generally "encouraged" here at a family level - let alone in the school system. But hopefully that is changing with programs like ADEC?  |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Pikgitina wrote: |
My intention is not to attack or offend you, but you point out others' shortcomings very easily and what's more, it feels like you do it from a place way up high, a place which others have not yet reached. I prefer person-to-person, adult-to-adult interaction. So come on down... otherwise your good intentions will continually be diluted. |
Pik:
S/He has been chided, by me, over the code speak. As you suggest, the poster doesn't yet get it how an obviously learned person can be interpreted by the masses that view this site as we are here to discuss and exchange information. Some are here (Me!) for fun!
To give a real life example of the kind of students that you obviously teach:
I had given an "Independent Learning" due date sheet over a month ago that culminated with today. A student who had been in possession of the sheet promptly put it into the student's portfolio and, of course, forgot to even write down the name of the student.
Sunday, realizing that my students, by and large, care less about "deadlines", I held up the sheet of due dates and told them that their re-write of their Practice Writing Test was due today.
Then, today, at the 1st period, I told them that I would wait until after the two-hour afternoon break, 1 p.m., to collect their work.
Arriving in class at 1, I, as promised, took to walking around the room picking up the work for grading. When I got to this student, the student looked up and said, "I wasn't here the day of the test.". I inquired of why the student didn't ask the others of what had been covered on the day of the absence (I checked later and discovered that the student DID attend class of the day of the test!). The student had no reply.
I asked why the student hadn't looked at the date due sheet in over a month. The student had no reply.
I asked the student why hadn't the question come up on Sunday when I held up the bleedin' sheet and reminded everyone that it was due today. The student had no reply.
I asked the student why the question hadn't come up when I announced during 1st period that I would wait until 1 when I know that the truly procastinatory students (about 3/4 of the class) would hurriedly do the re-write. The student had no reply!!!
YES, lck, many of them are COMPLETELY devoid of curiosity! World knowledge? FERGIT IT! Yet, week after week, we trudge back into the classrooms and attempt to enlighten them.
Funny thing is, that they frequently wind up ENLIGHTENING US!!!
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I bet tjc is being enlightened to no end. It doesn't directly answer his question, but at least it gives him a little insight into what the university level students are like... even at the best places.
If my memory serves, I do believe that all of the current comments are coming from teachers who have been teaching women in the Emirates. Is the experience teaching the males the same? I know that they are likely as irresponsible and procrastinating... but do they have no curiosity or interest in what they are studying? Or are we mostly talking about foundations courses... and this situation improves as they get into content courses?
For our original poster, are the students studying education at all interested in teaching?
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PC Parrot
Joined: 11 Dec 2009 Posts: 459 Location: Moral Police Station
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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To answer an unasked question, VS, wealth is as destructive...if not more, than poverty. Anybody who is half-alert, will see that wealth in these oil-sheikdoms have robbed these folk of incentive, a nation-building experience, and curiosity of the world around them.
In a way I pity these folk...
They're very GOOD people (an' I don' hafta be tellin' YOU dat!), but they've had so much stolen from them by the oil wealth.
When I'm at a mall and I see the Indonesian-Malaysian-Filipina-Whatevernationthathastoomanypeoplebutnotenoughmoney maid herding the uncontrollable children or the young national who pulls up outside a shop and incessently honks his horn until one of the downtrodden comes out to serve his whim by getting whatever he desires instead of him using his own bipedal functions and jes' goin' in, I think, smugly, to myself, "Jes' like in to good old days of his grandfather/great-grandfather..."
Yet, these folk show such great pride in the notion of going out into the desert to relax as it is a natural function. Most nationals here could no more survive in the desert conditions as could Americans survive as did Danial Boone in the Great American Wilderness. That young squirrel in Alaska proved that a couple of years back when he tried to rough it out in Alaska and wound up starving himself to death in the back of a bus.
At least, his memory was served by a movie being made about his foolish endeavour..."Into the Wild", I think it was called?
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ludhilltoysoldier
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 31 Location: UAE
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes...'Into the Wild'. Excellent movie..sad and thought provoking. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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ludhilltoysoldier wrote: |
Yes...'Into the Wild'. Excellent movie..sad and thought provoking. |
Thinkin' make my brain muscles hurt!
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tjc
Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 4
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
As suggested, I've done a bit of research now. Excluding HCT, all of the universities which were listed by VS (in the KSA forum) do run courses in Education and seem to be ok.
[It's completely off topic but one of the assistant professors at Zayed University is named Peter Parker... that put a smile on my face... working side-by-side with the real Spidey]
PeterWilliams suggested BUiD and MDX in Dubai; BUiD "collaborate" with the University of Birmingham's School of Education but it isn't a British university. I quite like the idea of working for MDX though and will certainly follow that up. I think working for a British institute abroad should increase my chances of returning fairly soon.
Thank you all for the feedback. |
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homeless vet
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 80
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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People with terminal degrees tend to not be happy as faculty at HCT. Administration, perhaps, but not teaching. |
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