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cmp45



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
veiledsentiments wrote:
How could you tell it was a stallion?

VS


Abaya-Clad Desert Warrior Queenie is dominant woman and would naturally ride a stallion.


A classic case of projecting one's own fantasy on another.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmp45 wrote:
Sheikh N Bake wrote:
veiledsentiments wrote:
How could you tell it was a stallion?

VS


Abaya-Clad Desert Warrior Queenie is dominant woman and would naturally ride a stallion.


A classic case of projecting one's own fantasy on another.

Funny... I had that same thought... because like the horsewoman herself, I know that the mares are more revered in the culture and would certainly be my choice.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
Yeah, and female preying mantises have been eating their mates for what--70 million years? Whatever.


One of my favorite species of insects - great for keeping the pest populate down!!!

Sweety, the colloquial name is praying mantises (for it's prayer-like stance), not 'preying mantises.' Some interesting information about this misunderstood creature:

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Sexual cannibalism is common among mantises in captivity, and under some circumstances may also be observed in the field. The female may start feeding by biting off the male�s head (as with any prey), and if mating had begun, the male�s movements may become even more vigorous in its delivery of sperm. Early researchers thought that because copulatory movement is controlled by ganglion in the abdomen, not the head, removal of the male�s head was a reproductive strategy by females to enhance fertilisation while obtaining sustenance. Later, this behaviour appeared to be an artifact of intrusive laboratory observation. Whether the behaviour in the field is natural, or also the result of distractions caused by the human observer, remains controversial. Mantises are highly visual organisms, and notice any disturbance occurring in the laboratory or field such as bright lights or moving scientists. Research by Liske and Davis (1987) and others found (e.g. using video recorders in vacant rooms) that Chinese mantises that had been fed ad libitum (so that they were not starving) actually displayed elaborate courtship behavior when left undisturbed. The male engages the female in courtship dance, to change her interest from feeding to mating. Courtship display has also been observed in other species, but it does not hold for all mantises.

The reason for sexual cannibalism has been debated, with some considering submissive males to be achieving a selective advantage in their ability to produce offspring. This theory is supported by a quantifiable increase in the duration of copulation among males who are cannibalized, in some cases doubling both the duration and the chance of fertilization. This is further supported in a study where males were seen to approach hungry females with more caution, and were shown to remain mounted on hungry females for a longer time, indicating that males actively avoiding cannibalism may mate with multiple females. The act of dismounting is one of the most dangerous times for males during copulation, for it is at this time that females most frequently cannibalize their mates. This increase in mounting duration was thought to indicate that males would be more prone to wait for an opportune time to dismount from a hungry female rather than from a satiated female that would be less likely to cannibalize her mate. Some consider this to be an indication that male submissiveness does not inherently increase male reproductive success, rather that more fit males are likely to approach a female with caution and escape.


So by understanding the above, we can infer that:
A: The males (eaten by the females) were unsuccessful (i.e. stupid) breeders which didn't exactly woo the female mantis properly.

B: The movies are full of deceptive practices that shock audiences and keep them ignorant of the truth behind the lense.

The moral of the story: Believe what you hear and read, not what you see.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalima Shahada wrote:


One of my favorite species of insects - great for keeping the pest populate down!!!

Sweety, the colloquial name is praying mantises (for it's prayer-like stance), not 'preying mantises.'


Uh-huh, "sweety," and "populate" is a transitive verb, not a noun.
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