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RL



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Outside Life Reply with quote

Of all the places you've lived as an ESL teacher, which offered the best opportunities for outdoor recreation? By that, I mean activities such as climbing, hiking, diving, trail running, etc.

RL
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question itself is a loaded one. If one lives in a big city all the time, there may not be a good chance for those things, so saying Country X is bad for such stuff would be misleading.
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oman, but only for half of the year. Starting now-ish, it's getting too hot to do a lot of outdoor activities.

I agree with Glenski, and I'll add a few more conditions: is it safe enough to go up into the mountains by yourself or in a group of foreigners? With the average salary, are hobbies (especially diving) affordable? And transportation--you either need good public transportation or a salary that lets you afford a car.

Oman passes on all those counts--except the public transportation. We've all got cars here.

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santi84



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Vancouver it is possible, but only the ESL teachers with lots of experience and qualifications can afford to do those activities on the weekend Smile
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

santi84 wrote:
In Vancouver it is possible, but only the ESL teachers with lots of experience and qualifications can afford to do those activities on the weekend Smile


...Or the ones who are married & whose spouses earn a decent salary!

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Sadebugo



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Outside Life Reply with quote

RL wrote:
Of all the places you've lived as an ESL teacher, which offered the best opportunities for outdoor recreation? By that, I mean activities such as climbing, hiking, diving, trail running, etc.

RL


Ignoring the limitations the other posters put on the topic, the Republic of Georgia offered the best opportunities for outdoor activities hands down. I lived in the capital but made it to the mountains almost every weekend. Being a small country, nothing was too far away yet, the diversity of the settings was amazing. Also, you could hire a driver (usually your normal taxi driver) for a whole day excursion for peanuts. I loved it.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/

PS If you want to see pictures of this beautiful country, click the link above!
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an ESL teacher, I'll pick Santa Fe, NM:

http://www.nmosg.com/

As an EFL teacher, I'll go with Indonesia:

http://www.iexplore.com/dmap/Indonesia/Activities

Regards,
John
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santi84



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denise wrote:
santi84 wrote:
In Vancouver it is possible, but only the ESL teachers with lots of experience and qualifications can afford to do those activities on the weekend Smile


...Or the ones who are married & whose spouses earn a decent salary!

d


Very true Smile That's how I can afford it Laughing
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lostdegaine



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oman is excellent for outdoor activities from October to March. To get some idea of what's available, check out this website.

http://www.omanclimbing.com/forum/index.php
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RL



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Outside Life Reply with quote

Thanks for all the information and especially for pointing out the expense factor. Sadebugo, Georgia photos are cool.

I can't believe that Ecuador or Argentina didn't pop up on someone's list. I would think the opportunities in those countries would be tremendous.

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Sadebugo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Outside Life Reply with quote

RL wrote:
Thanks for all the information and especially for pointing out the expense factor. Sadebugo, Georgia photos are cool.

I can't believe that Ecuador or Argentina didn't pop up on someone's list. I would think the opportunities in those countries would be tremendous.

RL



Thanks for the compliment, RL!

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Russia offers quite a bit of all the OP's outdoorsy needs!
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ecuador, hands down. Serious mountain climbing, forests of all kinds, trekking in all kinds of environment.

Beach, rainforest, cloudforest, paramos...all in a country about the size of Nevada.

BUT...you have to be really careful about checking with the locals to know where-s safe and where isn-t. It-s not the mountains that get you, it-s the banditos.


Best,
Justin
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RL



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin ... I thought Ecuador was a relatively safe country, i.e., no banditos. I just watched an episode of Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations show a few weeks ago and he made the place seem a relative heaven on earth. However, he did not go trekking in the mountains:) Thanks for the information though.

RL
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a relatively safe country.

This doesn't mean, in Latin America, that you don't have safety concerns. It just means that, by taking reasonable safety precautions, you're in no more danger than anyone else, anywhere else.

Asking the locals where it's safe or dangerous to go seems like a reasonable precaution to me. Was in Ecuador seven years, never had a serious safety incident.

Had aquaintances who trusted luck more than common sense, though, and things were hard (and sometimes risky) for them...


Best,
Justin

PS- THere is no heaven on earth, but I love the place! If you're careful, there's no reason to see it as risky.
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