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johnslat · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject:

Dear ndiva,

"Do you know of anyone landing a better job after returning from KSA?"

Better than what?

Regards,
John

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

After KSA it is downhill all the way.

johnslat · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject:

Dear scot47,

First, there are those who might say that "downhill" begins in Saudi, Second,a lot will depend on the individual's situation. A good number leave Saudi at, shall we say, an advanced age (I left at 60,) and finding a job back in the States, especially in the current economy, is usually not so easy.
Yet I found one: teaching GED at the New Mexico State Penitentiary, salary $53,000 per year plus benefits (until, of course, I got laid off after a year - due to the aforementioned economic climate.)
So, getting a "better job" back in the States right now would probably be unlikely, no matter where one might be returning from.

Regards,
John

Sheikh N Bake · Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours

Laramie Community College is offering starting ESL salary at $50-$60,000. That's not too shabby. Wide-open skies of Wyoming!

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I am not sure that ending up in the Pen is one of my life ambitions. My dear mother used to warn me that was where I was headed. Instead I came to Saudi Arabia.

johnslat · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject:

Dear scot47,

"I am not sure that ending up in the Pen is one of my life ambitions. My dear mother used to warn me that was where I was headed. Instead I came to Saudi Arabia."

Would you mind explaining how "the Pen" is different from Saudi? The Kingdom is a lot bigger, but at the Pen, after my eight-hour shift, at least I could return to relative freedom.

Regards,
John

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

John
You were there as an employee. My late mother hinted that I was likely to end up there as a guest of the State.

johnslat · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject:

Dear scot47,

You're in Saudi as an employee. Your Mom came pretty close to the mark, I'd say.

Regards,
John

desultude · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

I know two TEFLers (John being one) who came back to the US and got jobs in teaching in state pens. Both of them loved the job... and the students. So much for our preconceptions. Cool

VS

johnslat · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject:

Dear veiledsentiments,

Add another to the list. My friend Bill, who came back from Yemen a couple of months ago (or so,) is now working in the prison system down in Albuquerque. He's the guy whose newspaper article I've been posting on the General Middle East Forum.
Odd, isn't it - how teachers who come back from the Arab Peninsula seem to end up working in the slammer so often? Hmm, maybe it's the easy transition.

Regards,
John

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

OK... two friends and a friend of a friend. Cool

VS

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley

And just wait until Guantanamo is shut down and those "prisoners" who are deemed to be too dangerous to be freed are sent to federal prisons around the U.S.

Your Arabic language skills will be in great demand in the federal ESL game -- as will your experience teaching in KSA, the Gulf, and the rest of the Middle East! Idea

johnslat · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject:

Dear Henry_Cowell

"Your Arabic language skills will be in great demand in the federal ESL game -- as will your experience teaching in KSA, the Gulf, and the rest of the Middle East!"

Inshallah - I wonder when the "enhanced interrogation techniques" course will begin.

Regards,
John

Henry_Cowell · Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley