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Non-native in Japan... what are the chances?
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Apsara



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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L1 is your first language- in your case, Greek.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emalaith wrote:


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I've heard of eikaiwa hiring non natives but they were brought in to teach their L1 as well as English. I would imagine that they would tell immigration that they are being hired to teach the L1 rather than to teach English.


You mean I could be hired in a school to teach physics in English? I don't qualify for international schools, as they require 2-year experience in teaching.
You are right. You are not qualified to teach physics in an international school here. You'd need to do that in Japanese anyway if you taught it in another mainstream (public) school.

And, no offense, but if you want to teach any language and don't know the term L1, you really have a lot to learn!
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite surprised that you didn't google "L1 definition" or something similar before posting. It's a piece of very basic standard terminology.

But that aside:
I'm not sure what to suggest... Greek is really not a "language in demand" over here so I doubt you will be able to hired to teach that plus English. And Greece is one of the seemingly few countries that JET doesn't recruit from - I mean even Mongolia sent in CIRs and an ALT according to that list! And your nationality (unless you've got a relevant dual-nationality up your sleeve) means you can't apply for a WHV either.

Unless Imseriouslylost can give us the full details on the visa status of those ALTs from Mexico, Peru and France that he mentioned and they managed to get a visa despite being in the same situation as you, you might have to accept that you may not be able to come over here purely to teach English.

If experiencing Japan is something you really want to do, then there are other ways to come over. For example, you could come over as a student and get special permission to work part-time. The advantage is that you aren't bound to a specific type of work as you would be with a regular work visa, but the downside is that you would be student, not entitled to work full time since you should be studying and would actually need to be enrolled at a school willing to sponsor your visa which means you will have to pay for a course in something.

If you just want to work abroad, as you said in your initial post, perhaps you should consider other countries. Places like China just require you to have a decent level of education (a full bachelors degree) and occassionally to prove a decent level of English ability to get a work visa. I knew many EFL teachers who were not from English speaking countries. Quite a few of the foreign teachers I worked with at a uni over there most certainly were not being hired and brought in to teach solely their native language (if they taught it at all... I, for one, wasn't teaching anything English or French language related for an entire semester).
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Bucky420



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To cheer you up, yes, it is possible. Granted, it's a bit difficult(even frustrating) in the beginning, but it's definitely possible to teach English in Japan as a non-native(I'm from Slovakia, btw). Eight months after coming to Japan, I'm teaching at three language schools and have almost 30 private students.

The biggest problem is not really getting students or finding a job at school, but finding somebody to sponsor your visa. In my case, I got marriage visa, so that made it much easier. Once you get past the visa issue, it's just about waiting then.
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Imseriouslylost



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:

Unless Imseriouslylost can give us the full details on the visa status of those ALTs from Mexico, Peru and France that he mentioned and they managed to get a visa despite being in the same situation as you, you might have to accept that you may not be able to come over here purely to teach English.


Can't provide, sorry. I went to a meet-and-greet with my BOE and they were all ALTs in my city. I don't work for JET, I work for a dispatch company.

Someone stood up, said "I'm from ______" and sat down again. I was surprised at some of the countries because I was also curious about their Visa situation but I didn't talk to any of them long enough to find out how they were able to get in. I know one person from Hong Kong and another from the Philippines who both have Canadian passports, maybe that explains them. I could hardly understand the person from Peru, though, which makes me think that they're only from... Peru...
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