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sliim · Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 55

Johnslat,

Fair enough. How about "live and let live then?"

My intention wasn't to make a generalization about all US citizens, but it would be nice to see the Iranians living and being left to live for a change, rather than have others feel they can decide their destiny for them.

Best.

johnslat · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject:

Dear sliim,

" . . . it would be nice to see the Iranians living and being left to live for a change, rather than have others feel they can decide their destiny for them."

I agree. Change has to come from within to have any hope of sustainability.

Regards,
John

sliim · Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 55

So long as it is not a covert black op from the outside, I have no diasgreement with that statement.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

johnslat · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject:

Dear veiledsentiments,

Actually, I checked (you should have known I would) and sliim is right about that.

"But a group called Vince Vance and the Valiants (from New Orleans) actually released the "Bomb Iran" song during the 1979 hostage crisis, and the lyrics are clearly anti-Muslim, at least by today's standards. (It's available on Amazon.com.)"

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9711370-7.html

http://www.classic45s.com/product_info.php?products_id=21936&cPath=21_30_63

Regards,
John

007 · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:58 am Post subject:

Memo from Khomeini to Uncle Sam:
You are wrong, bumbling, and ignorant of Islamic Republic of Iran.
Did you not sign the Treaty of Amity in 1955 with Iran? Why are you meddling your nose in Iran's internal affairs and calling for "regime change"?
Did you not know that Rambo I is lost in Afghanistan, Rambo II is lost in Iraq, and Rambo III will be lost in Iran!! Laughing

Shame on you, big Satan! Laughing

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

johnslat · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject:

Dear veiledsentiments,

Praise be to Google.

But yes - I was certain that I'd heard it way before McCain. I left Iran in 1979, and, when I returned to the States (penniless,)
I lived for a while with my Iranian friends, Jalil, Kamal and Zia, the brothers who'd been my college roommates.
I recall talking about the "song" with them.

Regards,
John

7atetan · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject:

walkingstick · Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 19

[b]Iranians are going through a major identity crisis right now.

Concerning America, they have a LOVE/HATE relationship.

In short, they are schizophrenic! Just joking.

But seriously, they can't decide if they want to emulate and/or praise America or if they want to rage against it.

It's a strange mixture of Levi blue jeans, Starbucks, Hezbollah, hijab, and Lady GaGa...with a side order of nuclear weapons and KFC nuggets.

They'll blame America for their present state of affairs, but then it seems that so many of them want to move to America.

Make sense?? Not to me.
Rolling Eyes

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johnslat · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject:

Dear walkingstick,

So, it would seem that attitudes haven't really changed much, if at all, in the last thirty odd years.

Regards,
John

walkingstick · Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 19

Dear John,

It's just so hard to tell...
You don't know if you are dealing with Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde.

The young Iranians want change so badly, but it doesn't make sense to me that they still hang on to the things they want to change.

Like I said...a major identity crisis for sure!

Thanks for responding!
Walkingstick

johnslat · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject:

Dear walkingstick,

Well, not ALL the young Iranians want change - though arguably many, maybe even most, do.
But a lot of them want "the best of both worlds" not wanting to become "Westernized" at the expense of losing their culture, traditions and customs.
Striking a balance between the two will be very difficult, and there's no way everyone is going to be satisfied.

Regards,
John

walkingstick · Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 19

So true.

Cool Teacher · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject:

Hay doods!

I am not American, you know? Confused

But it si silly to say, Oh don't say bad things about the Iranian government until the rest of the world is all like rainbows and unicorns.

Sure, America and other countries have problems but it is wrong to think of the rest of the world as a role-call of the governments that run those places. Those governments are in charge of the people there and those people should be thought of more hughly than the governments that supposedly represent them (as with anywhere). Wink