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matador

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 281
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: The Quality of Applications in Japan.... |
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I have a friend who works for a language school in Osaka. He was telling me that about 75% of resumes/application letters he gets are terrible! I couldnt believe it! (He is a senior teacher and hires new staff as well).
The resume layouts are terrible, 3 or 4 fonts used, spelling mistakes, people unwilling to do a trial lesson/make some lesson plan, etc. And this from people with BAs, MBAs, CELTAs, DELTAs, etc. One teacher when asked to submit materials for a trial 30 min lesson said that you couldnt expect him to do that because he wasnt a 'performing monkey'.
He clearly advertises his positions in the Japan Times and online as well but seems to get too many applicants with a 'spray and pray' approach to emailing their resumes. The school only does kids. Which the job ads clearly state... so people go on about their key strength in teaching to adult business classes, etc.
Do people proof read their resumes and tailor them to the job...or just don,t care? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have proofread dozens of resumes from teacher wannabes here, whether they have had zero experience or have upper level degrees plus experience in their home countries. All are in serious need of rework for all of the reasons cited above.
Do people care? Well, they care about getting the job, but some just don't know how to apply, and that means not knowing how to write a resume or cover letter. In many cases, this is their first job post-university. In many cases, this is their first teaching position, let alone first overseas job. They just don't seem to know how to tailor their resumes or cover letters accordingly. Too many slap something together and shotgun it (the spray and pray method), in hopes that numbers will get them a foot in the door.
Sadly, there is very little available information out there on how to apply for these jobs properly. That's why people like me proofread these things and offer advice. |
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Smooth Operator
Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 140 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes. I have seen this too. One thing I would add is that sometimes prospective teachers stress their 'native fluency' in their cover letter or email, which comes across as arrogant and then becomes laughable when I see mistakes littering the CV! |
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Tonester
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Ojiya, Niigata Pref
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:26 am Post subject: |
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I must admit that I'm not really qualified to comment in this thread but I can understand the disappointment of employers in this case. I once applied for Interac (while I was still a JET alternate before being upgraded- I turned them down once I was upgraded and I'm glad I did after reading all the horror stories about that dishonest oufit) and the recruiter there told me about the terrible resumes that he receives every day. According to him; one person who applied for a job stated in his application that he wanted the job because he wanted a Japanese girlfriend and needs to get to Japan somehow. There are people who may be in Japan for that reason but you'd at least try to hide it. You certainly wouldn't say that in an interview or put it in your application as the reason for applying, would you? Have any of you posters in this thread ever had applicants like the one above? Pretty laughable I must say. |
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clareh
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:53 am Post subject: |
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As someone who is in the process of applying for jobs at the moment, I must say that it is hard to know what prospective employers want. Any tips on what to/ not to include in cover letters when applying for jobs. I have little experience so is it best to stress personal attributes? |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Clareh
Focus on aspects of your jobs where you trained others as well as your people skills. Proofread your resume and cover letter and get others to look at it as well. It is hard sometimes to see our own mistakes and our own faults, but that is another thread. Don't mention how you want to come to Japan to travel because your employers know you won't have time (or money) to do that. You can say how you are interested in their culture.
I've hired people in the past and was always amazed at how people never followed the guidelines that were set in the advertisement. If I asked for a hand written cover letter, I'd still get 60% of the applicants give me a typed one. Follow the advertisement to a T and don't give more than they ask or it's clutter. |
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ryuro
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:35 am Post subject: |
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75%? I'd say that's about right- maybe even higher.
As someone he spends the majority of my days recruiting and interviewing teachers I would definitely say that the quality of applications coming through these days is TERRIBLE!!!!!
Everything everyone has stated here is ture. And it's only getting worse. Japan is slowly becoming like other lower-paying, S.E. Asian destinations these days. We're attracting more unqualified 'back-packers' on WHV's looking to make a few bucks while snow-baording in the Japanese Alps.
And more and more companies ARE looking for performing monkeys which just ads to the glut of totally crap applications coming in.
Anyway, I've previously posted a thread entitled "How to get that coveted ESL job" or something to that affect. I won't post it again, but if you do a search for it on this board I'm sure you'll find it and it addresses this issue as well as tips to help those looking for a job in Japan (or anywhere for that matter).
Cheers,
ryuro |
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canuck

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting, however many of the schools offering work are also offering poor conditions and low pay. For example, many schools are looking for people to work for 250,000 yen and below, with a massive teaching work load, limited holidays and little time for planning lessons. The higher quality applicants are looking for higher paying jobs with better resume standards.
Matador, post the school your friend interviews for, along with the conditions for employment. Then maybe some higher qualified people can apply for the jobs or we can also see why his school isn't attracting people who want to make the effort to tailor a resume and cover letter for the job. |
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Iwantmyrightsnow
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 202
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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canuck wrote: |
Interesting, however many of the schools offering work are also offering poor conditions and low pay. For example, many schools are looking for people to work for 250,000 yen and below, with a massive teaching work load, limited holidays and little time for planning lessons. The higher quality applicants are looking for higher paying jobs with better resume standards.
Matador, post the school your friend interviews for, along with the conditions for employment. Then maybe some higher qualified people can apply for the jobs or we can also see why his school isn't attracting people who want to make the effort to tailor a resume and cover letter for the job. |
Well said! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Any tips on what to/ not to include in cover letters when applying for jobs. |
In resumes, do not list the following (real examples):
1. computer skills (example: MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, WordPerfect, WWW, Macintosh and PC)
2. irrelevant licenses/certification (example: CPR, AED, Oxygen Administration, Lifeguard, and First Aid)
3. irrelevant university info like scholarships, GPA, Deans List,
Example:
� attended under music scholarship
� awarded Nelson Riddle scholarship for Jazz Guitar
� performed in concert with Wynton Marsalis
Example:
� Completed a Bachelor Degree of Computing (Information Systems) at Monash University, Australia (1996).
This three-year course prepares students for a career in the management of information and the development of information systems. It provides skills needed to solve information problems and take advantage of information related opportunities in business and society.
� Completed an Associate Diploma of Business (Computer Programming) at the highly rated Holmesglen College of TAFE, Australia (1993).
Example:
Stirling University. 1998 � 2003. BA German & Spanish (Joint Hons) Expected Result: 2:1.
Included modules on Translation, both in and out of English. Several modules of Medieval German Literature and History, Latin American Literature, and two modules of Japanese Language. During my semester abroad at the Universit�t Passau, I studied Bavarian History and Russian, among other subjects. During my year abroad as a Language Assistant in Lima, I also studied Quechua and Italian.
4. irrelevant info on job history, especially in paragraph form
(example: SPRINT � Medford, Oregon USA Job Title: Administrative Assistant
Sprint is a telephone company. My job included: running sales reports and graphs, process new hires and terminations, update personnel lists, make travel arrangements, order supplies, copy, file, take minutes to meetings, organize company events and other special projects.
(example: As Photo Editor, managed a staff of 33 photographers. Digitally edited daily photo content in Adobe Photoshop for print and web under strict deadlines. Worked closely with editors in coordinating visual content, as well as designing special fronts. Attended daily staff meetings to assist in making of editorial decisions. As Photographer, shot daily assignments on analog film and Nikon D1x digital cameras. Copy edited and designed pages using QuarkXPress. As Writer, wrote editorials and reviews.)
(example: [bullet form])
Lab Instructor
▪ Composed and delivered lectures
▪ Worked with a diverse group of students, faculty, staff and administration
▪ Used sense of humor and personal attention to accomplish teaching goals
▪ Received outstanding evaluations from students despite difficulty of material
(example:)
Assistant Sports Information Director
� Responsible for Public Relations and Media Management in Respect to Sports Information.
� Assisted with Game Management Operations and Athletic Department Events.
� Management of Technical and Logistical Projects and Activities of Athletic Department.
� Aided with NCAA Compliance Requirements of the University.
� Coordinated Athletic Department Related Research and Reporting.
� Participated in the Supervision of College Work Study�s.
5. an objective (Example: OBJECTIVE: My objective is to secure employment as a Teacher of ESOL to children and/or adults.)
6. irrelevant sections (unrelated to teaching in any way), especially if they contain abbreviations.
Example:
Other Considerations
2001 President of West Australian Anthropology and Sociology Students Association, Social Science based resource center, library and social club
1998 Vice-President of the UWA Arts Union
Faculty Society providing student representation, social activities, sports, etc.
7. lists of classes you took (I've even seen one person list the grades he got)
Example:
A P P L I C A B L E C O U R S E S
Introduction to Public Speaking Educational Psychology
Voice and Articulation Introduction to Education
Advanced Public Speaking Introduction to Special Education
Communication Across the Lifespan Audio Visual Materials and Methods
Human Communication Interpersonal Communication
8. "those" sections with the undefinable things some people list as skills
Example:
� Ability to prioritize tasks and respond to multiple requests, proactive, flexible
� Strong verbal and written communication skills
� Comfortable with speaking to groups
Example:
Level 4 (Proficient) in Mandarin Chinese.
Culturally Sensitive as I lived and traveled all over the world.
Team player, but can work effectively as an individual.
Bold desire for challenges and adventures
Example:
LEADERSHIP
UW- Madison Committee on Student Organizations, Co-Chair
Kohler Hall Student Council, Secretary and Social Committee Chairperson
Example:
Additional Skills
Excellent verbal/written communication skills ▪ Proven ability to work with diverse groups, serving as a creative catalyst/leader when appropriate ▪ Exceptional critical thinking abilities ▪ Strong research skills ▪ High tolerance for stress ▪ Energetic and enthusiastic self-starter
9. Don't list more than one phone number. And, don't refer to your cellular phone simply as "mobile" or "cell".
10. Don't list more than one address. Give them just the one you want things mailed to.
11. ANY abbreviations (except perhaps UK, or USA, or TEFL/TESOL/etc.).
Example:
D.O.B.: 12 February 1981
Example:
Employer: MBNA
12. Unclear statements
Example:
Hobbies and interests:
Computers, Learning languages, Japanese.
[Hmmm, isn't Japanese a language, or are you saying you are interested in Japanese people?]
13. Keep the list of interests or hobbies to a minimum, but describe them with more than just one word. I saw a resume that had 1/3 of a page describing these!
14. Finally, it's been discussed extensively, but I'll say it again. Don't put your references on the resume. Even if you disregard this, please put some means of contacting the person. I have seen resumes without this vital information.
As for cover letters, give them what they ask for, but don't overdo it. For example, don't be overly wordy or use big words.
Example 1:
"As for my English articulation, I do speak clearly with a North American accent. I welcome your institution to grant me an interview to verify my language proficiency."
Another wordy one:
"My teaching methods are founded in the philosophy of constructivism. I believe in finding the key to making class material meaningful to each student and building on his or her existing knowledge and understanding of the world. As a part of this process, it is often necessary to take a highly individualistic view of my students in order to gain an understanding of each student�s knowledge of biology and of science in general. "
Don't use legalese jargon.
Example 2:
"Please find my resume attached herewith."
Don't kid a kidder. You know how to teach ESL or you don't.
Example 3:
"As you will see on my attached resume, I have years of experience in training and teaching in the business environment in Canada. One of my responsibilities is to teach and train new employees. I am familiar with the proper approach to teach someone effectively. In other words, I know how to put myself in a student�s position and understand what they need and how they should be taught."
Odd statements.
Example 4:
"I am best suited to a classroom full of students who have been raised with a sense of responsibility."
I realize that mine is a list of don'ts without any do's. Maybe I'll get around to that next time. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Cover letters. I have not seen any 'standard' cover
letter but you have to tailor it for the person you
are writing to, beginning with their name and address,
what you are applying for, why you are applying and
what you have to offer them.
Give them a brief introduction and the best way to
contact you to set up an interview. Then you can go
into all the details they require
they simply want to know if
1. You are in Japan or when you will be here to for an interview
2. You are qualified (i.e have a visa) to work here
3. When you can start work
4 You are reliable and not a closet serial child molester.
Some problems with resumes I have seen:
1. They try and 'sell' themselves and their
achievements- lots of awards, volunteer activities. "
Best this" and "Best that". Those kinds of things are a
little irrelevant as CVs here are simply a record of
your education and work background. Save the hype and self congratulations for the cover letter.
2. include a photograph- not a shot taken at the beach in Hawaii
but a portrait passport type. First impressions are
important and they want to see what you look like. As
far as I know most employers do not discriminate based on race
or ethnicity but they want to see that you dont have
nose pierce, tattoos etc.
3. If you put your phone number put the best time to
ring. US has 3 time zones and unless you want someone
ringing you at 3am work out what time is best, JAPAN
time. Don't assume your future employer has nothing better to do than chase you down across 3 time zones in a foreign country and will likely be hesistant to speak English over the telephone, if a non-native speaker, or wary of going through a switchboard or an answering machine. I have rung the US on occasion and give up after the second try if i get an answer phone or those auto-reply machines.
4. many times the person reading your CV here is not a
native speaker of English, perhaps reads and understands English to a
medium high level. avoid abbreviations, Americanisms
(SAT, GPA etc) slang, being overly familiar. This is a business
proposition and they are not your friends you will mull over a beer with.
5. Japanese employers and head teachers are usually
very busy people. A resume any longer than 2 pages they will throw
it away. Try to keep it under 1 page, no more than 2. KISS. Keep It Simple, Stupid.
6. IMO. Mention hobbies but really they are irrelevant
to the job you are being asked to do. If it has
nothing to do with teaching EFL I would leave it off
as it takes up space. You can mention languages if you
know any others and speak them to any degree.
7. In a typical conversation school you will not use
computer software or use the Internet so saying you
know word, Excel etc is incidental and
irrelevant to what you are being asked to do as an EFl teacher.
8. I have seen resumes where people talk about why
they are coming to Japan and want to learn the culture, get a girlfriend
and learn the language and everything else except what
they are supposed to be doing- teaching English. What
do you have that the school and students want, what
can you offer them? Schools are not paying you to
learn or study, but helping their students to learn.
Knowing about Japan and Japanese culture, speaking
Japanese can sometimes be a disadvantage, because you
deprive the student of the chance to teach you
themslelves. that is why they prefer 'green' teachers
with no experience and qualifications. (Again find out
what your employer is looking for and show hime how
you satisfy his needs)
E.g. if you speak a foreign language you can
understand how hard it is to learn languages, you can
teach them pronunciation etc, teach them about U.S.
culture etc.
Make sure you record dates accurately, there are no
'holes' or employment gaps in your resume.
You dont need to go into intimate detail about every
job you did (sometimes it can make you look as though
you would get bored with the routine of EFL teaching)
so play down your achievements becuase you may over-achieve
yourself out of being offered an interview)
Best just to say what you did and when, and when and save the nitty-gritty
details for the interview. |
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melirae
Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Just a note to those who are new to TEFL and don't have any teaching to put on your resume- if you're interviewing in the states, it's fine to have a Western-style resume. Just do try to emphasize any training work that you may have done.
I totally changed mine to the above suggestions and the guy who interviewed me (in the US) told me he thought that my resume was weird- well not exactly in those words, but he said it should have been more Western since I was interviewing in the US.
But now, it is redone to match the above advice of Glenski and PAULH (thanks guys!), so when I get to Japan, it will be useful if and when I want to look for a another TEFL job. |
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clareh
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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What is the rationale behind not including references on your resume? When should you supply this information? |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:50 am Post subject: |
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clareh wrote: |
What is the rationale behind not including references on your resume? When should you supply this information? |
Unless they specifically ask for them in the ad, don't give your references. You can give them a paper with the names on it at the interview. Your references are only important if they are seriously considering you for the job and then it's merely a formality. Your references will only say mostly nice things about you anyways or they wouldn't be on your list. 3 references is standard too and it should include someone who has observed you teaching. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:25 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Gordon about references, and would like to add this.
If you put references on your resume, there is a chance that they will be called by everyone you apply to. Do you really want to inflict that on the references, or would you rather choose the employer to give them to? |
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