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540-600 per hour?? Cheap or what? In Taichung

 
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NorthofAmerica



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: 540-600 per hour?? Cheap or what? In Taichung Reply with quote

I had a job offer that was for 540-600 per hour, guaranteed 80 hours a month. Doing the math that's 43-48k, little cheap no?

I am still in mainland China so I am not sure what sounds right. Are jobs in Taichung typically that much lower paying than Taipei (where 50-60k seems normal)

Also, anyone interested in hiring a sweet teacher with 3 years exp? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty standard in Taichung now. Of course, the laobans will try to offer you as little as they can get away with. Try negotiating for the higher end of the scale, especially if you're an experienced teacher. However, make sure you can show them value for their money during your interview / demo lesson

Taipei pays more, but the cost of living is substantially more too.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 540-600 per hour?? Cheap or what? In Taichung Reply with quote

NorthofAmerica wrote:
I had a job offer that was for 540-600 per hour, guaranteed 80 hours a month. Doing the math that's 43-48k, little cheap no?

I am still in mainland China so I am not sure what sounds right. Are jobs in Taichung typically that much lower paying than Taipei (where 50-60k seems normal)

Also, anyone interested in hiring a sweet teacher with 3 years exp? Very Happy
550 an hour seems to be pretty standard in Kaohsiung. Not sure about Taichung. I've had offers as low as 450 for regular classes, if you can believe that...

The lowest I ever took was 560 NTD with Hess. My second ARC school paid 500 NTD an hour (after taxes), which actually calculated out to a decent hourly wage since taxes are normally 18%. However, the school itself was a nightmare!

My current school pays me 600 NTD an hour, and will supposedly raise me to 650 NTD once we get to the three-month mark. However, most of the offers I've received have been for around 550. I even interviewed at one kindy that wanted to pay me 450 NTD an hour (that's when I was desperate -- 450 NTD an hour for dangerous, illegal work is OUTRAGEOUS). Incredibly, someone else "beat" me to that prize job. Oh, boo hoo.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People were having this same discussion on this very forum 10 years ago and the rates were exactly the same, or perhaps even a little higher then.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

43 - 48K a month is low no matter where in Taiwan you are, but look at the details. The job is hourly pay, not salary, so theoretically this means you won't be doing office hours, also 20 hours a week is below average for Taiwan. I think most schools try to get their white monkeys - I mean teachers - to work around 25 hours a week don't they? (correct me if I'm wrong).

So, again theoretically, if you were working no office hours and only working 4 hours a day you could find another school to do a few hours at (or private students) and supplement that 43 - 48K up to a better monthly wage.

Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't forget that you will be taxed 20 percent the fist six months that you are in Taiwan.
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creztor



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoA, it is low but it seems that's the way things are going. You'll pay 18% on the first six months (was 20% last year and changed to 18% this year), which is why I say you should seriously ask yourself why you are thinking about Taiwan. Someone mentioned that the pay is higher in Taipei but so is the cost of living. It is much higher, much more than the difference in pay. I was actually paid more by HESS working in Kaohsiung than what they were paying in Taipei. Most jobs I see in Kaohsiung are around the 600 - 650 mark and that's the limit.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creztor wrote:
NoA, it is low but it seems that's the way things are going. You'll pay 18% on the first six months (was 20% last year and changed to 18% this year), which is why I say you should seriously ask yourself why you are thinking about Taiwan. Someone mentioned that the pay is higher in Taipei but so is the cost of living. It is much higher, much more than the difference in pay. I was actually paid more by HESS working in Kaohsiung than what they were paying in Taipei. Most jobs I see in Kaohsiung are around the 600 - 650 mark and that's the limit.


Are things in Kaoshiung really that much cheaper? Is that just an urban legend?

McDonalds, Chinese food, and other western food seems to cost about the same everywhere.

The only difference I see in the cost of living is in renting an apartment.
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