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Rhino
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 153 Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:50 am Post subject: Small city anyone? |
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Hey, I'm teaching in a small town just north of Guangzhou called Yingde. I gotsta say it is so great here. Right now there are three of us teaching here. The population is about 100,000, and we really are stars here. The scenery is spectacular and the people are amazing. The company we work for pays us well and on time(they pay between 7-8000RMBs). I guess the bad news for some would be that we teach primary students and private school, but we dont mind. Theres also no McDonalds or Wallmart. It feels like REAl china here. I just wanted to encourage people that there are great jobs in China that pay more than 5000RMBs, and there are great places to live and teach here. Dont limit yourselves to big cities that are expensive and pay crap. The bad news is that we're leaving in July(that means 3 or 4 openings). Just thought I'd see if I could get some peoples wheels turning Cheers! |
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nolefan

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1458 Location: on the run
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:11 am Post subject: wrong |
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From my experience, there are quite a few folks teaching in small cities all over China. Most of the people I know prefer small cities.
Also keep in mind that the regulars at dave represent a small minority of the ESL teachers in the PRC.. |
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Rhino
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 153 Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Hey, good point! I hope the same is true about Latin America because reading postings on this site can make a person not want to go. I'm just trying to be a positive contribution I guess. Cheers! |
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Nate

Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 61 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:14 am Post subject: |
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So, my wheels are turning. Any more info you can offer up?
I will be looking to be employed and out of the USA by the time August rolls around.  |
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Philolinguist

Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 370 Location: In the land of oppressed people who don't know it...and/or don't care.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:46 am Post subject: |
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The newness of the small city I'm in wore off when I discovered that I can't find butter, cheese or spaghetti, among other things. Chinese food is fine but I don't want to eat it all day every day. The closest decent sized city, Luzhou, is about forty minutes away on the bus and I can't find those products there either. If I stay in China, my next stop will be in a much bigger city. Obviously night life of any kind is nonexistent and even if I go to Luzhou for the paltry offerings they have, I have to pay 75 yuan for a taxi back, since the buses don't run after 6pm. Yeah, the small cities rock.  |
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Rhino
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 153 Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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ya thats rough phil...I dont have it quite that bad. We've got 2 pumpin clubs and an MKJ(chinese version of KFC). I can also go to Guangzhou anytime and get cheese or butter. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:56 am Post subject: SMALL CITY ANYONE? |
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I also prefer the "small" Cities, although mine has 850,000 people.
I still cannot buy CHEESE or DEODORANT and my nearest decent sized City is 3 hours by bus. I have been in Shanghai twice during the past month, but have still not been able to get my hands on any cheese - very frustrating.
We do not have a McDonalds in this City but we do have a K.F.C. which I used to go to quite a lot at first, but not much now. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Cheers, Rhino, and welcome to Guangdong; I am glad you like it here, as your enthusiasm is spurring me on to plan an outing to a small town I have not visited in many years; how far is it from Yingde to Zhaoqing, Qingyuan, Shaoguan or Conghua? |
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Irish Blood English Heart

Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 256 Location: Gosforth, The United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:59 am Post subject: |
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yeah I think I would like to live/work in a small city somewhere in the south. Access to a big city nearby would be nice too though. |
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Rhino
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 153 Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've been asked for a lot of details on my PM and on this thread so I'll do my best. As far as the company...It called Morning Sunrise, but we were hired by Aipusen(they were helping out because its a new company). After the first semester they were not sure if there was going to be another one...untill enrolment doubled. Now they'll need four teachers for next semester which is'nt bad for a small town. My wife teaches Kindergarden to pimary grade 1, I teach grade 3 to grade 5. I have about 6 or 7 classes a day but no evenings(that could change but probably no weekends). Its a tough schedual sometimes but our pay reflects that. The city itself?... Its great unless you need fast food or western restaurants. Theres rafting and hiking and some decent night life. We've made tons of killer friends that dont speak English that are happy to buy you drinks and take you out for Qao mien at 2 in the morning. Its a 1 and a half hour train ride to Guangzhou and costs about 50 kwai return. My wife and I recieved 2 old beater motor bikes to get around so we boot around in the mountains on weekends. Damn...this sounds like a job posting! To be honest, its my first esl job over seas and my only complaints are some of the students, but I'd rather have a bad day here then at home. I will come back someday! Like I said my PMs are flooded and I'm trying to help...no tire kickers please |
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struelle
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 2372 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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To be honest, its my first esl job over seas and my only complaints are some of the students, but I'd rather have a bad day here then at home. I will come back someday! Like I said my PMs are flooded and I'm trying to help...no tire kickers please |
Dude, your enthusiasm is refreshing! Working in a small-town with a good attitude like this can help restore the fun and simplicity in this life. It's really energizing to read stuff like yours.
Taking a hard and honest look at my own situation now in the Big Cheese, I can see how the good, simple, and naive fun got squeezed out of me over my last year or two here. Something went wrong. Putting out too many fires, battling too many battles, working too many days, and constantly looking forward to the next break made me jaded and put me into survival mode.
Life should be fun, and I love teaching. I've had enough great classes and feedback to know that I'm a good teacher and this is what I enjoy doing. I get along with my colleagues and bosses. The first year in Shanghai was a ball. There's no reason to be burnt out *here* at this time, and I want the fun back!
As an avid psyc student in uni, I did tons of research on environmental influences. Put simply, one's work and living environment has a huge shaping effect. Tony Robbins says that personal change is powerful, but it's a lot easier to make the simple steps to change surroundings.
Every time I travel to the smaller towns, I get a great vibe and laid-back feel. Tropical places are the bomb. People are more relaxed, they smile more, there's more trust, and life is more fun.
Even in Shanghai, I get good vibes from creative and fun workplaces, like the school I first worked at.
So on this note, your post inspires me to make the changes in my life to find a better work and living environment. Living overseas is a golden opportunity and we should max it out.
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Rhino
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 153 Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Steve! I come from a frosty place in Canada working 40hrs a week and I'll always try to remember how miserable I was doing that life. Sure I have crappy days and its rained here for 3 weeks, but oh how glorious it will be when the sun comes out!  |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: .... |
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enjoy your stay. |
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Deborann

Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 314 Location: Middle of the Middle Kingdom
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If you can find a Metro anywhere they should have all the cheeses you want - French, Oz, NZ etc. Where I am this works. I know there is a Metro in Shanghai - met the manager on a visit here the other day (when I was complaining about lack of printer cartridges for the printer they sold me). Got great service after that.
However, the Chinese version of Tim Tams is not it!!! Am hanging out for my Oz visitors to arrive with REAL TimTams. |
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Rhino
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 153 Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: |
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uhmmmm...I think you posted on the wrong forum |
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