View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:29 pm Post subject: Natives teaching fluent English speakers English |
|
|
I'm currently doing language exchange, English/Polish, and I need material for fluent, but non-native English speakers.
they want phrasal verbs more than anything else, but aside from reading random articles on the internet for hours writing words down, i don't have a good idea of how to devise lists of them, every week, week after week, without wasting too much time spinning my wheels online.
i would appreciate any links you all might have on really super hard material for really advanced English speakers, concentrating on phrasals and idioms.
i generally put together enough material every week to fill an hour or so with them, but i'm trying to get a little more organized with it and put together some good sources......even websites that use a lot of informal language would be helpful.
sometimes i just waste too much time searching and not finding what i need. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
justflyingin
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 100
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There's a lot of really quite advanced stuff in the CAE book. Have you tried that yet? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
i teach CAE, CPE as well, those books aren't appropriate for what i'm looking for. they know the grammar because they're already English teachers. i gotta give them something they can't read in those books. colloquial stuff, phrasals, idioms, etc. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
TwinCentre
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Mokotow
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Do GMAT with them, that is as advanced as you are going to get. (Considerably above CPE level)
The Kaplan GMAT book is a good one. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Gdansk
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There are a couple of good books you can use. One about phrasal verbs, one about idioms. I'll send you titles and authors tomorrow. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Gdansk
|
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
IDIOMS ORGANIZER, by John Wright.
I couldn't find the book on phrasal verbs in the teachers room today, but it's either called Phrasal Verbs or English Phrasal Verbs. I'll look again tomorrow. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
|
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
thanks dude! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
|
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
English Phrasal Verbs in Use or/and English Idioms in Use by Oxford Univeristy Press. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Gdansk
|
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Both good. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
silesia
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 16
|
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
Just be careful that the idioms you teach are not old-fashioned.For example many Polish students are keen to tell you "Teacher.It's raining cats and dogs outside!"I dont know when I last heard that idiom used in the UK! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Gdansk
|
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Or in the US. My good old boy country friends say "it's raining like a cow pi$$ing on a flat rock". |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
nickpellatt
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1522
|
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
Google 'Guardian Weekly'. They have lesson material available as long as you sign up to the website...its free and just requires an email address and password. I often use their advanced level worksheets, just print and teach. They do not focus on phrasal verbs or idioms, but often include some 'in context' as they use genuine newspaper articles as source material.
This is a far better resource than just picking out phrasal verbs from books IMO. Anyway, its a free resource, if it isnt what you're looking for now...it might serve some purpose another time  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Blasphemer
Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 199 Location: NYC/Warszawa
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Bogey
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 13
|
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
silesia wrote: |
Just be careful that the idioms you teach are not old-fashioned.For example many Polish students are keen to tell you "Teacher.It's raining cats and dogs outside!"I dont know when I last heard that idiom used in the UK! |
idiomatic and slang based stuff can be difficult because it's ever fluid and changing. However, raining cats and dogs would still be completely understood by anyone, even if it's not used all that often these days. Personally I don't find that expression THAT outdated.
If it's something they pick up from a book, you can simply/gently explain that this is rarely used in everyday speech anymore.
I always have a field day with certain Britishisms that sometimes appear in material that no American/Canadian would ever utter, though they'd clearly understand (but that's another discussion entirely).
OP - why not try using some articles from superbly written media written for an intelligence audience, such as the Economist (their occasional Britishisms aside, there's no better written magazine in the world today. Also, they would probably find the reading quite interesting) |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|