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lapat008
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:52 am Post subject: How many rejections? |
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Hey all,
I have had interviews with Peppy Kids Club and Aeon. I didn't get offers from either one. I would love to know why I didn't make it despite the feeling that the interview went well. and of course Aeon states that they don't disclose that type of information..
How hard IS IT to get a teaching job in Japan?
Was it me, or is it simply b/c there are no vacancies available?
I have my last interview with Amity this week. Can someone please give me tips on how to make a great impression and increase my chances??
For those that have been successful, how 'energetic and friendly' were you??
I know it's May already, what are the best options to get a teaching position in Japan?
Thanks in advance. |
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Rakis
Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:04 am Post subject: |
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I got several rejections before I got finally got accepted. I think I had been looking for at least 5 months before I got something. Probably persistence and constant improvement of my resume and interview skills helped me get what I wanted near the end.
I interviewed with AEON also. Part of what probably killed my interview with AEON was being unprepared for their test and my shoddy excuse for a lesson plan. Catching the interest of the recruiter could be a mixture of asking the best questions, being a personality they find desirable, showing a capacity for teaching, and having a good energy.
The school I did get signed on with (ECC) just found something they liked in me rather than the other candidates. I was extremely enthusiastic and smiling throughout the interview. Before the popular thinking for getting the job was just being the best "edu-tainer." Now you'll probably be judged on your shelf life, will you be willing to have a longer term commitment or use this as a gap-year or business vacation? Companies may want the former, English consumers in Japan are likely to be more choosy in more qualified teachers for their investment. Nevertheless, being enthusiastic will still be necessary to show that you are interested in the company and their business plan.
If you're willing to try a smaller school, like the ones that are advertised here and ohayosensei, you may get lower pay and maybe a less desirable location, but I feel their acceptance rate is far higher. I received two acceptances through these sources but passed when the larger company school accepted me.
Best of luck, keep trying and you'll get here. :D |
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projectrook
Joined: 08 Jan 2010 Posts: 45
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:19 am Post subject: |
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1) Right now is not the best time of year for hiring.
2) Far more people interviewing than there are jobs available.
3) Geos went under just a little while ago. So teachers from there are applying for the same jobs you are most likely. And it's safer for them to hire people already in Japan.
4) You haven't said anything about any qualifications you have or don't have. So I can only assume you are on par with everyone else applying for the same jobs. A dime a dozen.
For some people it's easy and for others it's not. A large part of it is just being at the right place at the right time. If you can catch an employer at the exact time they need somebody, obviously your chances increase.
As for the interview, it all depends mostly on what kind of job. If it's an eikaiwa, you must remember that it's a school and a business. So it's your job to get butts in the seats. And to do that, you have to be very animated. A lot of times, hiring staff will look more at that rather than English ability. Grammar can be taught, personality cannot. If you are looking at a job as an ALT, your English level will be weighed more.
But I cannot stress this enough, you are going to have to compete with A LOT of people. You might get lucky and get a job quickly, or it might take several years if you only plan to apply from overseas. Not everybody who wants to get a job teaching in Japan gets it. But if you or anyone gives up too early, then well that's it. If this is something you really want and it seems that you do, then stay strong and keep working at it. Make sure your resume and CV really make you shine above the rest. Learn from past interviews, review any possible mistakes you might have made and correct them. Also look at the things you felt you did very well and do them more often. Practice the interview process in front of friends or family and get advise.
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lapat008
Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info and the encouragement Rakis!! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:16 am Post subject: Re: How many rejections? |
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| lapat008 wrote: |
Hey all,
I have had interviews with Peppy Kids Club and Aeon. I didn't get offers from either one. I would love to know why I didn't make it despite the feeling that the interview went well. and of course Aeon states that they don't disclose that type of information.. |
Most employers all over the world don't disclose that. Don't take it personally.
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| How hard IS IT to get a teaching job in Japan? |
Very hard. You are complaining about having only 2 interviews???? Get used to rejection in the job hunting game (not just TEFL either). I applied to over 30 university jobs just to get an interview at one here. Cost a bundle, too, as they all wanted registered mail for the applications, which were pretty thick packages.
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| Was it me, or is it simply b/c there are no vacancies available? |
If you answered an ad, there was a vacancy. As mentioned earlier, we can't answer if "it was you", because we don't know a thing about you, nor did we attend your interview or see your resume/cover letter, nor did we see the other candidates.
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I have my last interview with Amity this week. Can someone please give me tips on how to make a great impression and increase my chances??
For those that have been successful, how 'energetic and friendly' were you?? |
1. Wear business attire.
2. Be well-groomed. (hair neatly styled, no visible tattoos, no piercings, clean nails, fresh breath, etc.)
3. Be on time. Not half an hour early, but not 5 minutes late.
4. Know as much as possible about the employer.
5. Know as much as possible about the biz.
6. Have a demo lesson in your head. Practice it so that you have it down pat, especially the first 5-10 minutes. That's usually all you get.
7. Bring extra copies of your resume.
8. Know how to answer the regular and hard Qs.
9. Ace the grammar test (if one is given), or at least get 70%.
10. Show appropriate enthusiasm and interest, even when the recruiters are boring you to tears with policy issues.
11. Don't ask about salary and time off early on.
12. Don't say you have a girlfriend/boyfriend here.
13. Don't say you became interested in Japan because of anime or manga, even if it's true.
14. Don't say you want the job to help you learn Japanese. First, you won't be able to use it anyway in the classroom. Second, you are being hired to work, not study. Third, count on others in line already knowing some.
15. If you have a specific location in mind where you want to be posted, don't expect to get it unless you have a damned good reason (and even so, it's still not guaranteed). Have others in mind.
Despite all those things, you may have to live with the fact that they chose another person for really strange or unfair-seeming reasons that are beyond your control:
A. Nationality
B. Gender
C. Eye or hair color
D. Accent/Dialect
E. How they perceive you will interact with the staff and/or students (a major factor!)
F. The speed with which you talk
G. The pauses in your answers
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| I know it's May already, what are the best options to get a teaching position in Japan? |
You want one now? It's going to be very hard. Just seek out the ads and apply. Of course, odds would be better if you were physically here...astronomically better.
Besides, what can we tell you that we can't tell the other gazillion people who are applying, just to put you over the top? (Well, my list of 15 is there, but some people just refuse to do a lot of those things...)
Ok, you've said your thanks, but how about letting us know what your qualifications are? |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 10:44 am Post subject: Re: How many rejections? |
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| Glenski wrote: |
2. Be well-groomed. (hair neatly styled, no visible tattoos, no piercings, clean nails, fresh breath, etc.)
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15. If you have a specific location in mind where you want to be posted, don't expect to get it unless you have a damned good reason (and even so, it's still not guaranteed). Have others in mind. |
There is nothing wrong with piercings as long as they are not wierd/wonderful (or plain freaky stretched holes with a Trex tooth through them!), they aren't too numerous and you are female. Use some common sense: don't wear more than a couple of pairs of matching studs, and those studs should be through your ear lobes and not through any form of cartilage or anywhere else visible on the face or neck - things like nose piercings may be acceptable in the workplace in our home countries, but they are often not here.
I've heard mix things about men with piercings... best to remove them all.
Be careful with how you word your preferences. People who are too insistant on very specific locations without a good reason (especially if they are the in demand major cities like Tokyo or Osaka) or are too against the idea of living in more rural areas come across as inflexible and this will definately hurt your chances of getting hired. |
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