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riyadhteacher



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: New Labor Law Changes Reply with quote

I've heard rumors of labor law changes in Saudi (must be at a job for two years to transfer to another employer). Is is true? Is it being enforced?

Thanks,
[email protected]
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riyadhteacher wrote:
I've heard rumors

Ooooohhh...
We're not ones to go 'round spreadin' rumors, Oh
We're just not the gossipin' kind, Oh
You'll never hear one of us repeatin' gossip, So
You'd better be sure and listen close the first time.
--Hee Haw, circa 1978
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Citizenkane



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not heard about this, but even it it is true, as always there will be ways around it. Employers with major wasta will be able to flout the rules, and there's always the 'wash your passport' option, destroying evidence of your previous employment as far as the embassy are concerned.
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Asda



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards to the washing of one's passport;

1) Aren't visas in sticker form now, with permanent ink?

2) What if your fingerprint and eye scans are on Uncle Bandar's database?

Shocked

I would like to raise my bat (a cricketism) to everyone in light of reaching my double century (200 posts).

VS, I'm hot on your heels...!! Wink
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Citizenkane



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1) Aren't visas in sticker form now, with permanent ink?


"Wash" is a euphemism for 'lose' which in turn is a euphemism for 'pretned you've lost it so as to apply for a fresh new one'.

Quote:
2) What if your fingerprint and eye scans are on Uncle Bandar's database?


Not sure if that would be a problem - or not. Those fingerprints would be in the internal Saudi system, I don't think the embassies would have access to them. If you leave the country on a final exit visa, with all your papers in order, I don't think it would be a problem.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asda wrote:
VS, I'm hot on your heels...!! Wink

OMG!! If only I had some information to add so that I could post here!

VS
(Mabruk on post 200...)
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desert_traveller



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://arabnews.com/lawyou/article41129.ece

I have been working with a company for nearly a year. My employer and I agreed to get my iqama transferred to another employer. Is this possible? How is it done? � A.A.W.T.

Yes, it is possible to change jobs with your employer�s consent, but under the most recent regulations this cannot be done until you have completed two years with your current employer. As to the actual procedure: This is done by your current employer who will prepare your papers with a written approval called a no-objection certificate. This is then forwarded to the Passport Department who actually executes the transfer of the iqama to the new employer.
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Citizenkane



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the quote above, it seems that the new law is only concerned with people transferring from one employer to another without leaving the country, as opposed to those who leave on an exit-only visa and reapply for a new Saudi working visa abroad.
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Balzac



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: New Labor Law Changes Reply with quote

riyadhteacher wrote:
I've heard rumors of labor law changes in Saudi (must be at a job for two years to transfer to another employer). Is is true? Is it being enforced?

Thanks,
[email protected]


As we are talking about rumours, I've heard rumors of labor law changes in Saudi that say a person can apply for an iqama now without going to to the country of their passport e.g. it can be done in Bahrain.

Anyone hear anything about this?

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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

I've only been with my present employer for a year and a new company has taken over the contract. Under certain exceptions, including ours, there is no need for us to leave the country to effect the Iqama change. Our passports are in the Ministry (Labor, I assume) as I speak and our GR man was told the changeover for those of us with less than 2 years will be done in two weeks.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: wot ? Reply with quote

It depends on your employer. Just as some employers insist on you being in your native country before you can have a visa processed, so it is with this. A further illustration of the need to choose your New Master carefully.
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furthermore I am told that the new rule applies to foreign laborers but not western professionals. That's why my passport and Iqama are in the Ministry along with other colleagues, being processed.
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muhajir



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the reason for this new rule is to prevent foreigners from 'buying' visas just to enter the country, then look for work while they are on the ground. Usually Indians (IT professionals/engineers) do this, they pay a Saudi for a visa to come here (I heard its around SR2k) and they get an iqama with some random job title (cleaner/tailor/plumber), then once they are on the ground they look for jobs in their real profession, then they transfer. The new rule should prevent this.
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Balzac



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
Yes.

I've only been with my present employer for a year and a new company has taken over the contract. Under certain exceptions, including ours, there is no need for us to leave the country to effect the Iqama change. Our passports are in the Ministry (Labor, I assume) as I speak and our GR man was told the changeover for those of us with less than 2 years will be done in two weeks.


Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear. I mean that the rumour circulating is that the entire process from scratch can be done in a neighbouring country. I don't mean a transfer from one employer to another where the holder is already in possession of an iqama.

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Balzac



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muhajir wrote:
I believe the reason for this new rule is to prevent foreigners from 'buying' visas just to enter the country, then look for work while they are on the ground. Usually Indians (IT professionals/engineers) do this, they pay a Saudi for a visa to come here (I heard its around SR2k) and they get an iqama with some random job title (cleaner/tailor/plumber), then once they are on the ground they look for jobs in their real profession, then they transfer. The new rule should prevent this.


So, are you saying that a new employee, say on a business visa currently, can leave the country and go to say Bahrain, apply for the employment visa while there, and return to KSA to convert that into an iqama?

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