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The Latest Work Permit Fiasco

 
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Danaa



Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: The Latest Work Permit Fiasco Reply with quote

When we think we've seen it all, more things happen.

A large private school with the name "International" in its name with many branches in HCMC does not help teachers get a work permit. They also hired many that cannot get a work permit because of a lack of quals. Fair enough.

But now, they are insisting that we sign a contract that if we are caught teaching at this school without a work permit, we must pay the 5 million dong fine.

Some teachers have refused, one was sacked, and others are just signing the dotted line.
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mickeyrex



Joined: 03 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be kind of nice to have the actual Vn document of the requirements (2010) that a teacher is supposed to meet in order to obtain a work permit. There seems to be quite a bit of disinformation circling about.
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Andy123



Joined: 24 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still feel loved? It is going to get worse. Do you really think they care?

Years ago a teacher died at a "large" school and the school never even bought flowers. They don't care. We are a white face for marketing because the Vietnamese can do everything better. Just ask them.
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eclectic



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A large private school with the name "International" in its name with many branches in HCMC


is there any reasonable reason why this school cannot be named? Unless this is hearsay, which can be slanderous if unsubstabtiated, why can't the OP name the school? Perhaps I could email them and ask about this new policy......certainly that would dispel any doubts one way or other.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Years ago a teacher died at a "large" school and the school never even bought flowers


Really? Im sure Vietnamese employees have died in America at one time or other, and the school/company didn't do some Vietnamese tradition either.

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jb0072009



Joined: 26 Feb 2009
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Location: Saigon

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what the government wants for a WP currently taken from
http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages/20100410163137.aspx
Criteria for foreign labors in Vietnam:

- Age 18 and above.

- In good health, able to meet job�s physical requirements.

- Working as manager, managing director or expert. - Clean personal records and no criminal convictions.

- A work permit issued by authorized Vietnamese agencies.



Documents required to obtain work permit:

- Application form issued by the Ministry of Labor, War Invalids, and Social Affairs (MoLISA)

- Resum� (Curriculum Vitae) form issued by the MoLISA

- Verification of no criminal record by native country, or if the applicant has resided in Vietnam for six months or more by Vietnamese agencies (Department of Justice) in the city or province where the applicant is a registered resident.

- Health certificate issued by qualified hospital (Cho Ray Hospital, Saigon Hospital, several international hospitals and others qualify).

- Copies of degrees and/or professional certificates. - Three passport photos.

*All documents written in English must be translated and notarized by authorized Vietnamese agencies (Notarization Office No. 1 or �Ph�ng c�ng chứng số 1� at 92 Nguyen Du Street, District 1)

**A criminal record check from a foreign country must be notarized by that country�s consulate or embassy in Vietnam



No work permit required:

- Working in Vietnam for less than three months. - Members or owners of limited companies.

- Members of joint stock companies� board of directors.

- Services promoters.

- Lawyers having work permits issued by Vietnam�s Ministry of Justice


In addition schools have their own requirements outside of these such as a notarized TEFL (varies from school to school)
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Danaa



Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="eclectic"]
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A large private school with the name "International" in its name with many branches in HCMC


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is there any reasonable reason why this school cannot be named?


I'd rather not be identified. But I will say what school it is:

IPS

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Unless this is hearsay, which can be slanderous if unsubstabtiated, why can't the OP name the school?


I used the personal pronoun, "We." This implies that I work there.

I would not post hearsay. Slanderous? I named the school.

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Perhaps I could email them and ask about this new policy......certainly that would dispel any doubts one way or other.


Do you think IPS management is going answer your questions or anyone's. Email? Phone call?

Have you ever worked there?
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Wide Awake



Joined: 15 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a few teachers that work there and it's true. Good luck to anyone that chooses to work for them.
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