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"Winging it" in Guangzhou
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GregSka



Joined: 11 Apr 2004
Posts: 30
Location: Zhuhai, China

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: "Winging it" in Guangzhou Reply with quote

For several months I have been anticipating my move out of town for the crowded streets of Guangzhou. Now that I am finishing school, I am anxious to be on my way. I have decided that at the start of May, I will fly to Guangzhou to visit as many schools as possible and try to find employment.

Clearly, I haven't the slightest clue as to what I'm getting into.

Can anyone tell me if this "knocking on doors" method will work to my advantage? More importantly, can any of you point me in the direction of some good job listings in Guangzhou? I've bookmarked most of the ones on this site, but I'm constantly looking for more. Any help is appreciated.
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prawn



Joined: 04 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you've got the right idea. if youre there and ready to go, you're holding all the aces. i would guess that you'll easily find work, so don't rush into things - compare and contrast and go for the job of your choice. try the universities too (zhongshan would be a start), in fact try them first. you should be looking at 8000/mth in gz, accom visa and all the usuals supplied; any less and you're there for charity's sake alone no matter what certain ploughers of ancient furrows would have you believe. if youre there and people know youre looking for work, you'll as likely get a job by word of mouth as you would by finding it in any job listing.
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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO, I don't think you've got a single problem. I went their in January for a little holiday. I stayed their five days and then went through to HK. In those days I mearly gave out a few business cards, I didn't ask for any jobs whatsoever!!!, and was horded <sp?> with offers.

If you are doing the door-knocking thing, you haven't got a thing to worry about!

Enjoy The smelly pit of the earth, i mean, Guangzhou

LA
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GregSka



Joined: 11 Apr 2004
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Location: Zhuhai, China

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thanks for all the information! I guess that is one less thing to worry about..

I'm also curious to know: is it best to give each school I visit a full resume (cover letter, resume, letters of reference) or just a simple business card? Should I email every school before I plan to visit it?
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you maybe surprised to learn that some schools actually do care who they hire, and they will NOT take just any newbie with a Ken smile on his beardless visage. Contrary to what's been claimed by previous posters, you should be equipped with some dough to survive on your own, and possibly, be a tad bit professional, - if that's not asking for too much!
Where do you think you want to end up? Can you teach? Handle adults whose first tongue is not the same as yours? Can you deal with teenagers, or kiddies?

Should you have those docs available? Of course, matey, and much more besides.

How about giving trial lessons? That's now almost the norm, man!
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Cowboy Pete



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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Location: Godless China thank God

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Keen smile on beardless visage"
The quote of the week.
Please see The Great Wall of Weiner for your prize.
Cool
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Klamm



Joined: 18 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8000Rmb? Just show up? I beg to differ.

Take a look on the net. I just did a search and pulled up all the Uni's in Guangzhou. Most offer around 5,000 Rmb a month. Zhongshan offers 70,000 a year to full professors who have published in the last five years. The scale goes down quickly from there.

Maybe you can negotiate a better deal but I really think its misleading to tell a guy coming to Guangzhou that people are going to run up and offer him 8,000 a month. Jobs are here and plentiful, but 8K a month base is no cynch, that's my experience.

I'd be interested to hear more about these easy 8K month Uni's. Chances the cowboys just fire their guns off an nothin' more to be heard. You who ain' so used to fixin' with the barrel better lissen herey.

K.
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Rhino



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Posts: 153
Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work just north of Guangzhou and almost every FT I know there is making 8000 and up. If you want to know where they work Greg, just PM me. I agree that you should'nt settle for less than 7 or 8000 in Guangzhou.
Cheers Very Happy
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