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themomohime



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
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Location: Berkeley, CA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Interac and (Same Sex) Significant Others Reply with quote

So.. here's the deal. I am applying to work with Interac this coming Fall, and I am planning to live with my significant other wherever I am placed. We are not married because we are both female. Of course, I know that I don't need to broadcast this to the company, as "sex-life" should be private, but I do have a few questions:

1) Is Interac's salary pretty fair in the suburban areas if my S.O. will also have a salary to supplement?

2) How do I tell Interac that I need an apartment for two people? Will being "friends" be sufficient? Or will I need to search on my own?

3) Can you suggest any companies that don't require a B.A. for my S.O.? Smile

Thankies!

The Momohime
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting with your 3rd question: The BA requirement is a visa requirement not a job requirement. So if your partner does not have one or does not have 3 years of relevant working experience, she is going to have a hard time even being seen as eligible for a visa that allows work, let alone finding an employer.
Can I guess that you and your partner are from the US? If you are, she's not even entitled to the non-renewable 1 year WHV. And even if she were, should you be intending on staying for longer than a year, she'll have the exact same problem next year.

To your 2nd question: Forgetting the fact that your partner is the same sex for the moment, I think you will have an issue if you say that you want a place for you and a person who cannot legally be classed as a dependant and who may not be entitled to legally live and work here. Yes you could simply do your own search once you were here, but the fact that your partner may not be able to legally work here then leads into the answer for your 1st question...

... you could both live off the salary, but you wouldn't really be able save anything and may not even be able to afford living in a place big enough for 2 unless you were somewhere very cheap and rural. But if your partner is unable to gain some form of legal working status, she will be in no position to help out moneywise.

Does your partner have any intention of studying to get a degree? It would be a whole lot better if she had one, since I believe Japan does not recognise same sex marriages, so even if the two of you got hitched, she'd probably still not be entitled to a dependants visa (which allows PT work with special permission).
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themomohime



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
Starting with your 3rd question: The BA requirement is a visa requirement not a job requirement. So if your partner does not have one or does not have 3 years of relevant working experience, she is going to have a hard time even being seen as eligible for a visa that allows work, let alone finding an employer.

Can I guess that you and your partner are from the US? If you are, she's not even entitled to the non-renewable 1 year WHV. And even if she were, should you be intending on staying for longer than a year, she'll have the exact same problem next year.


-My partner is actually Canadian, and is going abroad through Working Holiday, a government program for its citizens, so she doesn't need the B.A. I am a U.S. American, and will have my B.A. (of course, as I'm applying for Interac), and we only plan to be in Japan for a year, give or take a few weeks.

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To your 2nd question: Forgetting the fact that your partner is the same sex for the moment, I think you will have an issue if you say that you want a place for you and a person who cannot legally be classed as a dependent and who may not be entitled to legally live and work here.


-So.... if she can legally be there, and will have a job, is it weird to say "Hey, I have this friend who I came to Japan with, who is working too, and we'd like to find a place that we can live together" weird? Thanks for your reply Smile
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, there shouldn't be any reason that they couldn't look for an apartment suitable for the 2 of you. It's not strange for people to house/apartment share and even less so if the are friends. But of all the friends I know living together, they started out in individual apartments then moved in together later. It might be easier if you just said you wanted to live with your "partner".

And if your partner is arriving with WHV in hand, she is able to start working immediately, which would make her an attractive candidate for things like local eikawa should a position open up. Also she's not limited to ALT and eikawa work.
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stefanreynolds



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: same sex Reply with quote

i think its oly fair that the boe know your sexual orientation so they can make an informed decision about placing you.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF?

NO, it isn't.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Monkey wrote:
WTF?

NO, it isn't.

My sentiments exactly! Mad
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stefanreynolds



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:47 pm    Post subject: it is because.... Reply with quote

well, ultimately it is the boe's responsibility not only for education but for pastoral care of the children. It is thus important that they know about a teacher's ethics before they are employed. ultimately, teachers influence their students...
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And gay people have no ethics?

Are you a troll, or are you just stupid?
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flyer



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, its a private thing.
Just say I will stay with my friend and leave it at that.
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my_way



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, its a private thing.
Just say I will stay with my friend and leave it at that.

so....if you were coming with your s.o. who was the same sex you would keep it a secret and just say he/she was a friend?? i don't think so.
i would tell them the truth.....you are coming with you're girlfriend and you need a place together. just tell them that she will be working elsewhere.
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ShioriEigoKyoushi



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Interac and (Same Sex) Significant Others Reply with quote

themomohime wrote:
3) Can you suggest any companies that don't require a B.A. for my S.O.?


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My partner is actually Canadian, and is going abroad through Working Holiday


Hard to say which companies accept people on WHV. There is no legal reason they should reject WHV holders, but some employers would rather not take them on. That's their prerogative. Apply away!

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So.... if she can legally be there, and will have a job, is it weird to say "Hey, I have this friend who I came to Japan with, who is working too, and we'd like to find a place that we can live together" weird?
No. Same sex relationships are not viewed as openly in Japan, but unless Interac has a policy about single apartments (like AEON does), you should be ok AFAIK.

stefanreynolds wrote:
i think its oly fair that the boe know your sexual orientation so they can make an informed decision about placing you.
I strongly disagree. As for "ethics", you have no grounds for saying that gays are less ethical or moral than non-gays.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my_way wrote:
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No, its a private thing.
Just say I will stay with my friend and leave it at that.

so....if you were coming with your s.o. who was the same sex you would keep it a secret and just say he/she was a friend?? i don't think so.
i would tell them the truth.....you are coming with you're girlfriend and you need a place together. just tell them that she will be working elsewhere.


I didn't anything about secrets, I just said to say that you are staying with a friend, which is true. They don't need to know anything more than that.
But, thats my opinion anyway
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Just gotta be quiet, I figure Reply with quote

To the OP, themomohime,

You could just bypass Interac and try to get a place by yourselves. Stay in a gaijin house for a while, where you could possibly share a room, and then go looking for private digs. It's hard to advise you on gaijin house accommodations as you don't know location, right?

If your partner is on a WHV, then she can work in just about any industry, right? Is she a recent grad or does she have work experience?

If she's a fresh grad, the best she can probably do is minimum wage retail job. Mind you, this is brilliant if she speaks a little Japanese and wants to learn in a hurry.

Does she have work experience/licensure? I've met WHV holders who work in their fields - an Australian hair dresser, a Canadian construction worker.

I think you'll find that, while Japanese do not openly show prejudice towards GBL people, as do some people who post here, they will shut you out of jobs if they discover your relationship. Some fields are more tolerant of different ways of living - entertainment, esthetics, etc. - but education is still pretty old fashioned.

Some recommended resources for foreign women in Japan -

http://www.fewjapan.com/ network of foreign professional women
http://www.being-a-broad.com/ Magazine, book and web forum

Good luck!
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