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Hiawatha
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 62 Location: Oman
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: Do not Work in Oman, Unless it is Your Only Option.......... |
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Poorest management I have yet to see. (From top to bottom).
Fired at whims, and especially if you are a good instructor, who has experience and specialized diploma.
The local teachers are protected from student complaints, and the expats are blamed instead.
Expats fired for absolutely no reason, except to appease student complaints of locals who will never be let go.
And, sadly this is at the higher level institutions.
Sorry, I'm usually more positive than this, but in the case of Oman it's unfortunately not possible |
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markcmc
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 262 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Where have you worked? And for how long? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Seems a bit over-dramatic to refer this to a complete country. So, you have taught at every educational institution in the whole country and they were all the same? One must always be careful of painting with too broad a brush.
Every foreign employer in the world reflects your criticisms to various degrees.
The fact is that there are some good jobs in Oman, but not as many as there should be or could be...
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Duffy

Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 449 Location: Oman
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Hiawatha,
Most all of your recent posts have been on the KSA board about working in KSA. How come you are suddenly the expert on current working conditions in Oman?
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isabel

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 510 Location: God's green earth
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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I get it. You want to keep this beautiful country to you and your friends, so you are trying to scare every one else away.
Clever. |
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Pikgitina
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 420 Location: KSA
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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isabel wrote: |
I get it. You want to keep this beautiful country to you and your friends, so you are trying to scare every one else away.
Clever. |
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slaqdog
Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 211
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: high turnover of teachers |
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I work at a College in Oman, there has been a very high turnover of teachers this year-mostly involuntary and mostly related to management.
However even with this issue a lot of teachers want to stay.
The teaching is often more like crowd control or babysitting, quite often very low level stuff. But pay arrives on time........which is no small thing.
Many teachers here need to forget about slagging off locals and do some work....you need a bit of balls to control the classroom, but even with hard work and experience AND a good classroom manner if you do not brown nose then you may be chopped yes the mismanagement issue can rear its ugly head.
Positives; if you like scenary and can stand the heat there are places to go and thigs to see unlike many other places in the Gulf.
But I finish with a quote from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy;'Locals: mostly harmless'.
except for the randy taxi drivers but thats another story for another thread |
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isabel

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 510 Location: God's green earth
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:22 am Post subject: Re: high turnover of teachers |
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slaqdog wrote: |
I work at a College in Oman, there has been a very high turnover of teachers this year-mostly involuntary and mostly related to management.
However even with this issue a lot of teachers want to stay.
The teaching is often more like crowd control or babysitting, quite often very low level stuff. But pay arrives on time........which is no small thing.
Many teachers here need to forget about slagging off locals and do some work....you need a bit of balls to control the classroom, but even with hard work and experience AND a good classroom manner if you do not brown nose then you may be chopped yes the mismanagement issue can rear its ugly head.
Positives; if you like scenary and can stand the heat there are places to go and thigs to see unlike many other places in the Gulf.
But I finish with a quote from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy;'Locals: mostly harmless'.
except for the randy taxi drivers but thats another story for another thread |
Don't come to anywhere in the Gulf is you aren't up to having your strengths challenged and your weaknesses exploited.
If you can handle that, it can be a good and rewarding experience. Oman is a fantastic country with incredible things to do. The students are difficult (!!) to manage, but they are really mostly sweet and guileless. Find your ways to manage them (mostly the bedu boys, but also some of the girls) and you can have a good time. They have great humor, and can be very kind and loving. I adore even my worst students.
As for the management. It is Arab. The management in Oman, at least in my brief experience, seems to be better intentioned than Saudi management, but their management skills are generally appalling- at least when it comes to handling westerners. Make your peace with it or leave is certainly the only option. You cannot and should not try to change it. Forget about that option. It will lead to disaster and heartbreak. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: high turnover of teachers |
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isabel wrote: |
I adore even my worst students. |
This is an oddity that I found true too. I think that one of the big problems with the jobs in Oman is that the low pay brings in too many inexperienced teachers. They have great difficulty with what is often crowd control, but usually just classroom management skills.
And, in my experience, the teachers who have the fewest problem are usually... ahem... let's say... mature women. I'm not saying that they are necessarily better teachers, but just better at dealing with these issues. (I see another thesis topic in there...)
VS
(hey slaqdog... aren't randy taxi drivers a worldwide problem? ) |
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slaqdog
Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 211
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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VS re randy taxi drivers; as a 46 y.o fat male I find these attentions to be a 'novelty' tut tut the fun I have been missing.......
As re 'mature women' being better well yes it is my personal preference but I dont think mature men have greater difficulty or are less able in this department. Many younger teachers flourish; it's a personality issue,,or disorder, I think |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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slaqdog wrote: |
VS re randy taxi drivers; as a 46 y.o fat male I find these attentions to be a 'novelty' tut tut the fun I have been missing....... |
This has never been a novelty in Oman... but not a topic to start on the public board.
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As re 'mature women' being better well yes it is my personal preference but I dont think mature men have greater difficulty or are less able in this department. Many younger teachers flourish; it's a personality issue,,or disorder, I think |
Definitely an issue of experience first, of course... but we older women have an advantage. As I said... an interesting thesis topic. But from my years in the Gulf and watching the posts here... it is just my "observational study."
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isabel

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 510 Location: God's green earth
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
slaqdog wrote: |
VS re randy taxi drivers; as a 46 y.o fat male I find these attentions to be a 'novelty' tut tut the fun I have been missing....... |
This has never been a novelty in Oman... but not a topic to start on the public board. :lol:
slaqdog wrote: |
As re 'mature women' being better well yes it is my personal preference but I dont think mature men have greater difficulty or are less able in this department. Many younger teachers flourish; it's a personality issue,,or disorder, I think |
Definitely an issue of experience first, of course... but we older women have an advantage. As I said... an interesting thesis topic. But from my years in the Gulf and watching the posts here... it is just my "observational study."
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Maybe you can use it for "action research". |
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Hiawatha
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 62 Location: Oman
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: CORRECTION: please excuse my previous negative Oman post... |
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Hi There
"I wish to correct my previous post.....Do not work in Oman unless it's your only option....."
What I wrote is true, yet I do not want to be this negative toward any establishment. They are doing the best they can. I sincerely apologise. H. |
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pat blake
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I can definitely say that being a "mature" woman means a bit less hassle, but not necessarily so. If young men have never been taught by a woman, they might disrespect you because of (or be distracted by) your gender. Of course, young or old, you have to be motherly or sisterly to get them to respect you. You never act like their "friend," because men and women are not friends. Ever.  |
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