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roywebcafe
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 Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: Eligibilty to work in Japan?? Advice please |
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I am a UK citizen. What i want to know is what do i need in terms of docs to work in Japan?
I will have a CRB by end of may. Have CELTA, Degree, experience, references.
Trying to get in to Korea requires transcripts, apostillised certificates from l ocall embassies, CRB blessed by the pope bla blah blah blah!! Do i need to jump through the same hurdles as for Korea So i can work for EPIK, GEPIK, SMOE, THRUSH, SCEPTRE and al the other organisations that i might end up resenting!!
Sorry for rant about korea but how better or worse or perhaps same is Japan?? |
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corinl
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Good questions. I had these same worries as I was looking at Korea the other week and after researching and varies replies from agents decided it's not going to work - I'm UK citizen but applying from New Zealand and apart from a slim chance getting my degree certified by some university council for korea, it looks like I have to go back to UK to interview with immigration...so now I'm focusing just on Japan as well....
From what I understand - please feel free to correct me anyone! - you don't need an appostilled police check from the uk as for korea, just the standard police check for Japan.
Original degree cert is required along with transcripts, but not signed, sealed and all that jazz for Japan...though I've not had confirmation from anyone on this part yet.
Japan seems easier to sort out the paperwork, the only problem being sorting out a job!
Korea seems to suck for work opportunities unless you're North American in which case they love ya!
I'd appreciate hearing other peoples views as well... |
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corinl
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Glenski
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roywebcafe
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Is this visa process specific for UK citizens?
Sending my actual degree in the post is worrying. I might lose it and have to apply for a new one which could take ages!!
Could i vist the embassy in person and get it done on the day?
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roywebcafe
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I just phoned the embassy in London they won't issue certificates. The embassy said my employer has to do that. So first find an employer in japan. He then files for the certificate. I presume the embassy sends me one and i then send all the paperwork to them with it??
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roywebcafe
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Yeah i didn't know that you had to sort out a job first before getting involved with the embassy officals!!
China is easier you go on a tourist visa decide on a job and they sort out the paperwork for you. Upgrade you to a Z visa. Easy. Taiwan is even easier. No Visa. Land. Look for job. Once you get a job they do the paperwork for you as well.
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Good questions. I had these same worries as I was looking at Korea the other week and after researching and varies replies from agents decided it's not going to work - I'm UK citizen but applying from New Zealand and apart from a slim chance getting my degree certified by some university council for korea, it looks like I have to go back to UK to interview with immigration...so now I'm focusing just on Japan as well....
From what I understand - please feel free to correct me anyone! - you don't need an appostilled police check from the uk as for korea, just the standard police check for Japan.
Original degree cert is required along with transcripts, but not signed, sealed and all that jazz for Japan...though I've not had confirmation from anyone on this part yet.
Japan seems easier to sort out the paperwork, the only problem being sorting out a job!
Korea seems to suck for work opportunities unless you're North American in which case they love ya!
I'd appreciate hearing other peoples views as well... |
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seklarwia
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| roywebcafe wrote: |
I just phoned the embassy in London they won't issue certificates. The embassy said my employer has to do that. So first find an employer in japan. He then files for the certificate. I presume the embassy sends me one and i then send all the paperwork to them with it??
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No. You send all your paper work and forms to your sponsoring employer. They take all of your paperwork along with the things they need to supply along to immigration in Japan for processing. The employer then goes and picks up your COE and sends that to you in your home country if that is where you still are. You take the COE along with your passport to your local embassy and get a visa stamp. Your embassy only issues the stamp at the end and has nothing to do with the application process which normally needs to take place within Japan via your sponsor.
If you are scared to send you certificate in the post then use a courier service.
Some employers don't realise that there are other suitable forms of uni documentations that will be accepted by immigration in the place of the original certificate, but you insisting isn't going to change their mind and will likely have them withdrawing you job offer. |
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Apsara
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China is easier you go on a tourist visa decide on a job and they sort out the paperwork for you. Upgrade you to a Z visa. Easy. Taiwan is even easier. No Visa. Land. Look for job. Once you get a job they do the paperwork for you as well.
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Plenty of people do this in Japan as well. Whether you apply from inside or outside Japan, a job offer is of course a prerequisite to applying for a working visa. I sent my original degree to my future employer for my application, (years ago now) and got it back no problems. I have not heard of anyone losing their degree during the process, although I imagine there's a slight possibility of it happening. |
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roywebcafe
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks seklarwia. Sometimes i have to be wrong to suss things out. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| roywebcafe wrote: |
| I just phoned the embassy in London they won't issue certificates. The embassy said my employer has to do that. |
Terminology needs to be straight here.
An employer does not issue a COE. Immigration (or more precisely, the Ministry of Justice) does that. They send it to your employer who then sends (not issues) it to you. After that, you take it in to the J embassy/consulate or to immigration, and the visa or status of residence is then placed in your passport.
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| So first find an employer in japan. He then files for the certificate. I presume the embassy sends me one and i then send all the paperwork to them with it?? |
See the above remarks I made.
| roywebcafe wrote: |
Is this visa process specific for UK citizens?
Sending my actual degree in the post is worrying. I might lose it and have to apply for a new one which could take ages!!
Could i vist the embassy in person and get it done on the day? |
No, the process is not specific to any nationality.
Yes, sending your actual degree can worry some people. If you absolutely cannot part with it, get a certified copy and send that (adding sealed official transcripts will help). I've heard of only a handful of cases where the degree was damaged or lost in the dozen years I've been in Japan, but if it really happens, replacing it is not that expensive. It's just a piece of paper that can be reissued by your uni.
No, you cannot get a visa in just a day. After you get the COE, yes, that takes one short visit to the embassy to complete, I think. Confirm with yours. It's been a long time since I did that |
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Kionon
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| I can confirm that, Glenski. I actually managed to get on a ship in the wee hours of the morning, get to Seoul, go to the consulate, hand over CoE and passport (I believe they asked me for my Korean ARC as well, but you shouldn't have to worry about that inside of the commonwealth, but I do not know) at opening time, came back after lunch, picked up passport with visa, and sailed back to Japan. All done in less than 24 hours. |
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seklarwia
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| But for UK and many of the US embassy/consulates it can take a few working days. So best to check with the embassy you plan to take your COE to in advance. |
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