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Akatsuka123



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Interac August 2010 Reply with quote

Anybody on this forum with an offer with Interac for August/September 2010?
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rhoadesd20



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a reply today saying I didn't get a position.

/sigh. I thought my interview and demonstration went really well too.
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stefanreynolds



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: still waitong Reply with quote

have you received an offer?
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stefanreynolds



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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: if your visa has been applied for Reply with quote

if your visa has been applied for, does that mean you are guaranteed the a position? and what about the japanese language phonecall test? and why do you have to do an online resume?
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Akatsuka123



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: if your visa has been applied for Reply with quote

stefanreynolds wrote:
if your visa has been applied for, does that mean you are guaranteed the a position? and what about the japanese language phonecall test? and why do you have to do an online resume?


If you have the visa, you are 99% certain of a job. However, things can go wrong. As is life.

I'm not sure what you are asking regarding the Japanese language phonecall test? What country are you applying from? I never had anything like this. After the online application, you will get a phone interview. If you pass this you will have a second group/individual interview. If you pass this and the consequent criminal/health checks, you will most likely be offered a job --- if there is a job to offer you. If not, you'll go on the waiting list.

Its just the way they do things. Every company has their own way of doing things. The more open you are to things -- especially change, the more appropriate you are for the job.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: if your visa has been applied for Reply with quote

Akatsuka123 wrote:
I'm not sure what you are asking regarding the Japanese language phonecall test? What country are you applying from? I never had anything like this.

There is a short Japanese test for people claiming to have a relatively high Japanese ability. If you didn't say you had anything more than basic Japanese then you didn't need to do this.

Japanese ability can get you in with a shot at in-demand placements (Tokyo BOEs often request ALTs with decent Japanese and/or teaching experience in Japan) and in some branches having JLPT 1 (possibly JLPT 2 in cases) can start you out on a slightly higher salary.


stefanreynolds wrote:
if your visa has been applied for, does that mean you are guaranteed the a position? and what about the japanese language phonecall test? and why do you have to do an online resume?

Have you received an offer of employment? Have you specifically been told that they are processing your visa now?
If you can answer yes to both, then I'd say you a almost certainly coming over. But few things in life are guaranteed 100%.

As to the Japanese test, what level did you say you had? I think they are mostly interested in those claiming the equivalent of JLPT 2/1.

If you are talking about the online resume after receiving an offer of employment, then that is for the BOEs. Interac only recommends new recruits based on the BOE's request/requirements (and if you are lucky, based on your preferences). At the end of the day it is the BOEs that choose to have you and they make that decision based on your online profile and resume and your demo tape (which is why you are encouraged to do your self-intro in Japanese if possible).
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Akatsuka123



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: if your visa has been applied for Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
Akatsuka123 wrote:
I'm not sure what you are asking regarding the Japanese language phonecall test? What country are you applying from? I never had anything like this.

There is a short Japanese test for people claiming to have a relatively high Japanese ability. If you didn't say you had anything more than basic Japanese then you didn't need to do this.

I do have JLPT level 2 and I did state this. I remember Interac saying that people with JLPT level 2 and higher get an extra Y5000 a month. However, I haven't done a Japanese test. I dont think I've even shown my JLPT certificate as proof. Should I require about this?
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: if your visa has been applied for Reply with quote

Akatsuka123 wrote:

I do have JLPT level 2 and I did state this. I remember Interac saying that people with JLPT level 2 and higher get an extra Y5000 a month. However, I haven't done a Japanese test. I dont think I've even shown my JLPT certificate as proof. Should I require about this?

Where did you state this?

You might want to remind them as perhaps they have forgotten or missed that, but don't hold your breathe for the extra pay. Different branches have different rules. I was told last year by a manager that our branch didn't give the bonus for having JLPT 1 that others did. That was last year however, so that might have changed this year.
And they way our interviewer phrased it was that people with JLPT 2 and above may receive a higher salary if certain requirements were met. It wouldn't surprise me if one of the requirements was that you receive a placement that required you to have JLPT 2.
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Akatsuka123



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: if your visa has been applied for Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
Akatsuka123 wrote:

I do have JLPT level 2 and I did state this. I remember Interac saying that people with JLPT level 2 and higher get an extra Y5000 a month. However, I haven't done a Japanese test. I dont think I've even shown my JLPT certificate as proof. Should I require about this?

Where did you state this?

You might want to remind them as perhaps they have forgotten or missed that, but don't hold your breathe for the extra pay. Different branches have different rules. I was told last year by a manager that our branch didn't give the bonus for having JLPT 1 that others did. That was last year however, so that might have changed this year.
And they way our interviewer phrased it was that people with JLPT 2 and above may receive a higher salary if certain requirements were met. It wouldn't surprise me if one of the requirements was that you receive a placement that required you to have JLPT 2.

in the original application. my interview was so long ago now i cant remember if i gave them the JLPT 2 certificate or not. But I'm sure I didnt do a test, I would have remembered the stress!

Not sure how to bring this up in an email... Maybe 'I heard all Japanese speakers have to do an Interac Japanese test, however I have not done this...'

Thanks for the info though. Initially I was dubious as to why I'd get an extra Y5000 a month for 'nothing'.. Is there additional work stuff you are required to do in order to get this 'extra' money?
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if it would be all that stressful. From what I understand, it's not a formal test; more of a conversation in Japanese with a Japanese member if staff.

I don't think there is extra work attached to the ever so slightly higher salary.

When did you interview exactly? And did you actually receive an employment offer? If so, when are you expecting to come to Japan?
If you didn't receive an offer of employment you probably are not going to get the phonecall "test".
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Amarok



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't get a Japanese test until/unless you're hired.
They do make you show them copies of your JLPT if you have it.
The test is a really easy phone conversation with one of the Japanese staff members.


You will get absolutely nothing for your Japanese. They only tell you this when recruiting because it seems like a nice perk, which it would be if it EXISTED, but what they will do is use your Japanese for all it's worth to pimp you out as a prospect to the BoEs. You won't get paid anything extra for it, though, no matter what lies they spin at interviews. It sucks.
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Akatsuka123



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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amarok wrote:
You don't get a Japanese test until/unless you're hired.
They do make you show them copies of your JLPT if you have it.
The test is a really easy phone conversation with one of the Japanese staff members.


You will get absolutely nothing for your Japanese. They only tell you this when recruiting because it seems like a nice perk, which it would be if it EXISTED, but what they will do is use your Japanese for all it's worth to pimp you out as a prospect to the BoEs. You won't get paid anything extra for it, though, no matter what lies they spin at interviews. It sucks.


'until you are hired' ... What point of time is this? I have the certificate of eligibility and an unconfirmed offer in kansai.

Whatever the case, I'll be fighting my case for that extra pay that they told me about at the inteview. Should I be doing it now before my contract stating actual pay is given to me I wonder? Otherwise they'll probably just say 'it's now in the hands of the school/boe' ... Zzz

I don't want to lose this job before I even have it, but I think I'm entitled to ask questions...
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Akatsuka123 wrote:

'until you are hired' ... What point of time is this? I have the certificate of eligibility and an unconfirmed offer in kansai.


When exactly are you expecting to come over? And what do you mean by unconfirmed offer in Kansai? It's a little hard to understand your situation if you don't explain or use the terminology properly.

Basically the normal process is:
1. Interview
2. Sign employment offer (this has nothing to do with your actual contract, pay nor placement location) and fill in forms for COE.
3. Complete online resume and profile.
4. When they have a good idea of when you will be arriving they apply for your COE.
5. They will send you the COE not too long in advance of your arrival.

The COE has a very short period of validity and once you take the COE to your embassy you will only have 3 months to enter Japan before the visa stamp expires.

Ay any point from 3 onwards, you may be given a specific location, BOE location or area/region which you will be asked to confirm acceptance/decline within the next few days. Until you arrive and sign your placement and salary contract this is never a guaranteed placement location and can be changed or withdrawn by Interac at anytime.
If they withdraw your placement or will be unable to match you to a placement before the arrival date, they will ask if you want to arrive as an alternate or post-pone your arrival until the next intake.

Your turn. Explain you situation as fully as possible. Where are you in the process exactly. What exactly have Interac told you so far?

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Whatever the case, I'll be fighting my case for that extra pay that they told me about at the inteview. Should I be doing it now before my contract stating actual pay is given to me I wonder? Otherwise they'll probably just say 'it's now in the hands of the school/boe' ... Zzz

No, they won't say that. They will make it very clear that your school/BOE is not resposible for you inb anyway and that any questions, queries, complaints or requests should be addressed through Interac and never with put directly to your school/BOE.

And don't be fighting anything. You will most certainly be dropped. I suggest a polite email saying that you heard their was the possibility of a slightly higher salary and asking when you need to submit proof of your JLPT status. As I said before, the interviewers can be extremely clever in how they talk about the higher pay rate and merely having a certificate is probably not enough to fulfill the pay criteria. Can you find where Interac has put "JLPT 2=higher pay" into writing?


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I don't want to lose this job before I even have it, but I think I'm entitled to ask questions...

Ask questions? Yes, if you word them very tactfully.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
Akatsuka123 wrote:

'until you are hired' ... What point of time is this? I have the certificate of eligibility and an unconfirmed offer in kansai.


When exactly are you expecting to come over? And what do you mean by unconfirmed offer in Kansai?


I would bet that the he got told he would likely be placed somewhere in Kansai, but Interac hadn't decided yet. IIRC the biggest Interac contract for then would be Sakai, although that's not a good contract as Sakai waits a few months before getting new ALTs (basically the school year runs until March but Sakai ALTs start in September).


seklarwia wrote:
Akatsuka123 wrote:
Whatever the case, I'll be fighting my case for that extra pay that they told me about at the inteview. Should I be doing it now before my contract stating actual pay is given to me I wonder? Otherwise they'll probably just say 'it's now in the hands of the school/boe' ... Zzz

No, they won't say that. They will make it very clear that your school/BOE is not resposible for you inb anyway and that any questions, queries, complaints or requests should be addressed through Interac and never with put directly to your school/BOE.

If the OP winds up in Kansai he'll almost certainly be on a haken contract so he can talk to the school/BOE about things. They actually give the ALTs a contact number for someone at the BoE in the event of problems or complaints (you should get this with any haken contract).

seklarwia wrote:
And don't be fighting anything. You will most certainly be dropped. I suggest a polite email saying that you heard their was the possibility of a slightly higher salary and asking when you need to submit proof of your JLPT status. As I said before, the interviewers can be extremely clever in how they talk about the higher pay rate and merely having a certificate is probably not enough to fulfill the pay criteria. Can you find where Interac has put "JLPT 2=higher pay" into writing?

When I interviewed with Interac, I remember being told the JLPT level 2 thing. I think the e-mail is good advice though. I was told it was 5,000 yen a month if you had it, so I wouldn't make too much of a deal of it.


seklarwia wrote:
Akatsuka123 wrote:
I don't want to lose this job before I even have it, but I think I'm entitled to ask questions...

Ask questions? Yes, if you word them very tactfully.

I hate to say it but this is spot on with Interac, especially in Kansai. If you go to Kansai, I hope the MC has changed as she was nice when everything was OK, but when something went wrong she was not pleasant to interact with.
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