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What subjects would give me an advantage in Mexico?
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snapdragon



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Location: Bremen, Germany

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: What subjects would give me an advantage in Mexico? Reply with quote

Right now, I'm wrapping up the school year studying in Germany; I'll be back in the US in June, at which point I will probably be spending ~6 months, give or take, living with my parents and doing some low paying job (the give or take depends on how low paying!), whatever I can get, to save enough money to get a CELTA and then, as the plan is now, get myself started in Mexico City where I will then look for work teaching English. I have no degree, just some college credits.

I'm considering taking some community college classes as well while I'm in the US. My parents will pay for that as it could lead to a four-year degree which is pretty much their dream in life for me at the moment, even though I want to figure out why I want the degree instead of earning a degree in some random subject, which my parents might not be able to fully afford in any case and which might leave me with loans. I want to give EFL teaching a try and live in Mexico for a year or two, more maybe depending on how it all works out.

My question here is, are there any specific subjects that I should take classes in while I'm at home, just for a semester or two, that would give me some kind of advantage in looking for jobs in Mexico? It wouldn't lead to a degree, but I was thinking that perhaps some level of proficiency in some skill or another (very vague, I know!), might help me out. Maybe some basic business course if I wanted to teach business English (not that I necessarily do, or know if I could), or something computer-related....? Communications of some kind? I really don't know if any of this helps at all, and maybe I'll just take a few classes that interest me randomly, but if anyone has suggestions, I'd welcome them!

Thanks for the help Smile
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nwomac



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: What to take? Reply with quote

Hi,
If you are going to teach English, then you should take some courses in that subject. Also, you might try taking a basic education course to add to your resume.
Check with your advisor at the college in which you matriculate.

Good luck.
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snapdragon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I doubt I'll be teaching anything like college English (ie Literature, etc.), but maybe. Education, though, I'll see what they have to offer there, could definitely be useful! Thanks Smile
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snapdragon wrote:
Well, I doubt I'll be teaching anything like college English (ie Literature, etc.), but maybe.

Neither did I but I ended up teaching World Literature and Literary Genres in a high school and French in another place. At the moment I teach translation on a languages degree so you never know.

Subject teaching is a growing area in Mexican secondary schools, high schools and unis as more and more places want subjects taught in English.
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Industrial, Mechanical Engineering; Economics.

plus your German skills, and you could eventually land yourself a sweet job with Volkswagen Mexico (they have a plant here in Puebla).

(btw, that's exactly what I'm trying to do: I've got myself enrolled in some German classes here, studying Econ. at the local Uni, getting ready to send of my application for an internship...)


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snapdragon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think high schools or especially unis would be hiring me without even a BA. I know I'm most likely to be at a language institute of some kind, yes?

Economics, though, I could try that! (Engineering scares me.) Would that be to teach some kind of business English class?
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snapdragon wrote:
I don't think high schools or especially unis would be hiring me without even a BA. I know I'm most likely to be at a language institute of some kind, yes?

Don't rule that out either. If they need a teacher and he's remotely qualified, they'll make it happen.
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snapdragon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
snapdragon wrote:
I don't think high schools or especially unis would be hiring me without even a BA. I know I'm most likely to be at a language institute of some kind, yes?

Don't rule that out either. If they need a teacher and he's remotely qualified, they'll make it happen.


She Smile But, thanks, I'll keep it in mind. I guess it's a right place, right time kind of situation if that happens. I'll see if I can end up in that place and time!
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: What subjects would give me an advantage in Mexico? Reply with quote

You might also want to get an online TESOL certificate, it will give you some good ideas for teaching classes, especially at the beginning. They aren't too expensive, in the $200 - $300 US dollar range, and you get out of it what you put into it. You can plow through in in a few weeks, or take your time and thoughtfully do the assignments, it's up to you. Another thing you might want to consider is applying for a job working for Interlengua. I know some people hate them, but they will hire you with just a HS Diploma, and they give you a decent training program, something you can use in the future wherever you go. The pay is decent, and they will pay half of your work visa costs, plus all the costs for the lawyer who will take care of it for you. They have a very rigid teaching method, but they supply you with EVERYTHING you need, books, lesson plans, posters, etc. You pretty much just show up. Plus they have locations all over the city. I worked for them way back when, and found that people were impressed that you had worked for what is considered one of the biggies here in Mexico City. And, this probably shouldn't be last, but they pay on time!
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: What subjects would give me an advantage in Mexico? Reply with quote

For just a few bucks more than an online TEFL you can get a SEP approved teacher's diploma. PM me for more info.
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dixie



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: What subjects would give me an advantage in Mexico? Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
For just a few bucks more than an online TEFL you can get a SEP approved teacher's diploma. PM me for more info.


Can you explain what this is exactly and what value it holds? It seems to be coming up a lot lately and...well...it's SEP; despite their purpose they do not have great educational knowledge or value IMHO.

If you're thinking TEFL course then I would suggest doing it in country, rather than online. It gives you the experience along with the theory which is a MUST if you want to succeed.

It would also be better than a SEP course which is only recognized in Mexico (should you ever decide to move around and see new places) and...well, I think I was clear about my SEP views above.
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: What subjects would give me an advantage in Mexico? Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
For just a few bucks more than an online TEFL you can get a SEP approved teacher's diploma. PM me for more info.


True, but he asked for things he could do ahead of time to prepare for the move. I have an online certificate and until now that has been enough to get a variety of well-paying jobs and private classes, and it's better than nothing. Plus, if he doesn't have teaching experience it should give him some good ideas for classes unless he lands at a school that gives training.
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: further thoughts. Reply with quote

I would most strenously discourage an online course in TESOL, TEFL or whatever. I am hearing from many educational administrators that they highly disapprove of those internet courses. They would only be money down the drain and might even be a reason for someone not to hire you as you would be trying to put one over the employers, so would be the impression.
I would suggest a class in Applied Linguistics and another in education. The business course is one I would put a distant third. Also a course in Spanish would come in useful.
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snapdragon



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was already planning to get an actual in person TESOL certificate of some kind, probably a CELTA, the intensive one month kind, before starting to look for work Smile But, thanks!

Thanks for the advice about Interlengua, too, I might look into it.

I'm not sure what an SEP diploma is--would it help me to find a job, more than a CELTA would?

And, finally, I will look into those class suggestions! (I speak some Spanish, and sadly my local community college isn't offering anything past intermediate in this fall semester which would largely be a waste of money as I speak intermediate Spanish, but I will be trying to improve it.)

Thanks for all the helpful advice, everyone.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snapdragon wrote:


And, finally, I will look into those class suggestions! (I speak some Spanish, and sadly my local community college isn't offering anything past intermediate in this fall semester which would largely be a waste of money as I speak intermediate Spanish, but I will be trying to improve it.).


As far as working on your Spanish is concerned, perhaps you could find a native speaker in your area, preferably someone who has teaching experience,and hire them to tutor you in higher-level conversation. Maybe one of the Spanish instructors at your community college would be interested or could help you find someone.
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