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G Cthulhu
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Location: Way, way off course.
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| seklarwia wrote: |
| Actually... the confirmation letter for current students will only prove that the person is in their final year and not that they will graduate at all. How does that work? They must have to send some sort of confirmation that they completed all their finals, right? |
I'm not sure if it's still the case, but that is the one and only area where the JET applicants get (got?) some slack in so far as the MoJ will issue the COE (with a hold on it, however) and then the consulates or embassies can release the COE and issue the visa once they sight the degree confirmation letter. And by confirmation letter I mean the letter that actually states they have graduated.
In the normal course of events, the transcript itself is not *needed* as part of the COE, visa, or immigration process. All they want to know if that you have a degree. A transcript may prove that, but it's not the only way, and hardly the recommended way. |
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seklarwia
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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| Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| In the normal course of events, the transcript itself is not *needed* as part of the COE, visa, or immigration process. All they want to know if that you have a degree. A transcript may prove that, but it's not the only way, and hardly the recommended way. |
I spoke to our JET desk and they told me that they don't want the original certificate because they would need to return those to all of the applicants that don't make the cut, which would be far too costly. So they only want the photo copy and original transcripts from graduates. I asked about this in 2008 when my first cheque disappeared in the post followed by my uni messing up my transcripts on the 2nd attempt and them being unable to get another set to me in time for the deadline.
So unless they can get a COE issued on the photocopy (not clever considering how easy it is to obtain fakes these days - schools in China do this alot to get work visas for foreigners) they are using the transcripts. |
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natsume
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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Location: Chongqing, China
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| Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| seklarwia, I thought you were a dispatch ALT? ("our JET desk") |
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Kionon
Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas
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Just because there are mostly ALTs doesn't mean there aren't JETs in a community.
My community has two JETs, six ALTs, and about four eikawa instructors. There are also about eight other random Westerners doing other things, for a grand total of about twenty. There is a JET desk not in my town, but one fairly close. If I am understanding the use of JET desk correctly. |
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natsume
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| I guess I am not understanding the use of "JET desk". And I'm a JET. |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Let's be clear about terminology.
JET is often used to describe the program itself, but some people who are JET programme ALTs often go by that description ("I'm a JET" = "I'm a JET ALT.").
There are 2 kinds of ALTs: JET programme sponsored, and dispatch agency sponsored.
There are also AETs working through the BOE, but not for either JET programme or any dispatch agency.
I assume a "JET desk" is some official regional office for JET managers or other types of officers, perhaps even from CLAIR. |
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natsume
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| Sorry, I'm being obtuse this morning, I apologize. I just reread seklarwia's post, and she was talking about when she (tried to) apply to JET, I think? |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| seklarwia wrote: |
| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| In the normal course of events, the transcript itself is not *needed* as part of the COE, visa, or immigration process. All they want to know if that you have a degree. A transcript may prove that, but it's not the only way, and hardly the recommended way. |
I spoke to our JET desk and they told me that they don't want the original certificate because |
Way to ignore what I was actually saying.  |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| seklarwia wrote: |
| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| In the normal course of events, the transcript itself is not *needed* as part of the COE, visa, or immigration process. All they want to know if that you have a degree. A transcript may prove that, but it's not the only way, and hardly the recommended way. |
I spoke to our JET desk and they told me that they don't want the original certificate because |
Way to ignore what I was actually saying. |
Really? I already know other ways to prove a degree to regular employers. I used a different method myself. For the record, I've never heard that any one of the three methods is less recommended than the other.
But JET asks for something very specific. I want to know about what they are using to get the COE.
You said the transcripts are not used for the COE. If guaduates are only submitting a copy of their certificate along with original transcripts, are they using the copy only to get the COE?
If you don't know, say you don't. No need to go off on a tangent.
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| Sorry, I'm being obtuse this morning, I apologize. I just reread seklarwia's post, and she was talking about when she (tried to) apply to JET, I think? |
Yes, when I was trying to apply in the UK. It was the second year that the JET thing wasn't happening for me so I came over with Interac the following spring.
When I realised that my uni wouldn't get my transcripts I contacted the JET desk which I'm guessing is at the London embassy (but who knows with email).
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I stand corrected; the JET desk is at the London embassy according to postal address. |
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