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Juche
Joined: 24 Feb 2010 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: Advice for my situation |
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I have a B.S. degree in a scientific field (rather than a B.A. in a humanities field like english, which is what it seems many ESL teachers have) and am curious about doing ESL. Does it matter if you have a B.S. in a scientific field rather than a B.A. in a humanities field?
I've got a contract position lined up as a laboratory technician, but it is just a contract and I will not get placed permanently. So I am wondering about becoming an ESL teacher for a few years when that is over.
As far as accreditation, I am under the impression that Trinity, CELTA & DELTA are the main/only accepted accreditations for these positions, and anything online really doesn't count.
However when I looked into it, I really couldn't find training programs in those 3 programs near where I live, they were several thousand dollars and far away (so living expenses would go up too). I can afford to pay for the training, but have heard that some people get placed with just a bachelors degree so don't know if it is 100% necessary or not.
I guess I feel like I'd rather try to do a contract as an ESL teacher with just my B.S. degree, and if I like doing it (teaching ESL) then do certification like Trinity, CELTA or DELTA to open more doors. That way I don't end up spending thousands on a certificate for something I don't want to do for very long.
Another issue is I think I'd prefer to teach in southeast asia or latin America. I think I'd like latin american culture and SE Asian culture (despite the differences), so places like Taiwan, Costa Rica, Thailand, S. Korea, Nicaragua, etc. would be placed I'd like to visit and see. I am under the impression that in countries in central america or the country of Taiwan simply having a bachelors is enough to get a job. It probably won't be as good as what you can get with CELTA or Trinity accreditation, but I am under the impression you can get something.
Also, does age matter? I started college late and will be in my early 30s (32-ish) when I am ready to travel overseas for this. It seems most ESL teachers are early/mid 20s. Does my age make a difference?
What about prescription medications? I have a few prescriptions for things like hypertension (nothing I take is scheduled, ie no narcotics or anything), am I able to have those prescriptions filled in host countries via the mail or do I need to see a doctor there to do that?
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Ursula
Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 5 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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I have a B.S. degree in a scientific field (rather than a B.A. in a humanities field like english, which is what it seems many ESL teachers have) and am curious about doing ESL. Does it matter if you have a B.S. in a scientific field rather than a B.A. in a humanities field? |
I taught English in Japan several years ago and met people with all sorts of different degrees (BFA, BA, BS). I don't think having a BS will be a problem.
I have never worked in the countries you are interested in, but I have the feeling that your BS will qualify you for some sort of English teaching position. Of course, a certificate will make you more attractive to employers, especially in a tight job market. But, if getting the certificate is not an option, you might as well send out applications and see if schools are interested. You might also consider doing volunteer or paid ESL tutoring in your community to boost your CV. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: Advice for my situation |
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Juche wrote: |
I have a B.S. degree in a scientific field (rather than a B.A. in a humanities field like english, which is what it seems many ESL teachers have) and am curious about doing ESL. Does it matter if you have a B.S. in a scientific field rather than a B.A. in a humanities field?
I've got a contract position lined up as a laboratory technician, but it is just a contract and I will not get placed permanently. So I am wondering about becoming an ESL teacher for a few years when that is over. |
As is the case for most newbies, you are pretty much equally qualified with a non-teaching degree. Doesn't matter for TEFL if you have a BA, BS, BSc, MA, MS, MSc, etc. in geology, archaeology, chemistry, nuclear physics, economics, architecture, law, etc.
You're going to be treated the same as other newbies with minimal qualifications in Japan.
P.S. I have BS and MS degrees in science.
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As far as accreditation, I am under the impression that Trinity, CELTA & DELTA are the main/only accepted accreditations for these positions, and anything online really doesn't count. |
I wouldn't make such a generalization. Yes, those other certs are in the upper ranks. Yes, many/most employers have traditionally not cared or even known about certs. In today's crowded market, it will be to your advantage to have something probably, just to separate you from others, but just having a top level cert like CELTA is no guarantee that you will be chosen over Joe or Josie Smith without a cert. There are plenty of other factors involved.
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have heard that some people get placed with just a bachelors degree so don't know if it is 100% necessary or not. |
Yup, as I described above. A college degree in any major is the usual visa requirement that most Japanese employers have used to accept people. That and being from a native English speaking country.
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Also, does age matter? I started college late and will be in my early 30s (32-ish) when I am ready to travel overseas for this. It seems most ESL teachers are early/mid 20s. Does my age make a difference? |
Your age at this point will not matter in most situations in Japan. Can't say about other countries.
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What about prescription medications? I have a few prescriptions for things like hypertension (nothing I take is scheduled, ie no narcotics or anything), am I able to have those prescriptions filled in host countries via the mail or do I need to see a doctor there to do that? |
That's something you have to discuss with your doctor, whether he is willing to mail them. Otherwise, you'll probably have to be diagnosed and treated from scratch (in Japan, anyway). |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:31 am Post subject: |
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If you get certification, you should look for an introductory TEFL course (CELTA, Trinity, etc.). DELTA isn't an introduction--it's a more advanced qualification.
No, we're not all in our 20s. A lot of us start young, though. Since you'll be entering as a newbie (and one with... sorry... minimal qualifications), you will be eligible for the same types of jobs as the 20-somethings, so you could end up being the elder at your place of work.
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: |
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But being "older" means that they might take you more seriously and you could move up faster. The thing about Latin America is that while Mexico will get you a visa, many other places expect you to border hop or already have a visa. I know that in Peru, they won't get you a visa, flight, or housing. In Uruguay, I believe that you can get your own visa. IN Ecuador, don't even think about overstaying because they're cracking down on visas. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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The thing about Latin America is that while Mexico will get you a visa, many other places expect you to border hop or already have a visa. |
Mexico won't get you a visa , but a decent Mexican employer might, or you can apply for one on your own. Also, it's not too difficult to get a working visa to work independently, if you prefer to work free-lance. Check out the Mexico Forum for more details! |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Isla Guapa wrote: |
naturegirl321 wrote: |
The thing about Latin America is that while Mexico will get you a visa, many other places expect you to border hop or already have a visa. |
Mexico won't get you a visa , but a decent Mexican employer might, or you can apply for one on your own. Also, it's not too difficult to get a working visa to work independently, if you prefer to work free-lance. Check out the Mexico Forum for more details! |
Me thinks I have to stop posting while trying to lesson plan at the same time. |
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JLL
Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Advice for my situation |
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Juche wrote: |
What about prescription medications? I have a few prescriptions for things like hypertension (nothing I take is scheduled, ie no narcotics or anything), am I able to have those prescriptions filled in host countries via the mail or do I need to see a doctor there to do that? |
When I was in Japan I just went to the tiny local doctor's office, waited with the little old ladies, and showed the doctor (who spoke NO English) my medications. He looked them up in a book, wrote out prescriptions, and I took them to a pharmacy in the area who ordered everything for me. It was fine; I repeated the process when I needed more medicine (but the doctor would write a 4-month prescription when I asked; he probably wanted to put off the discomfort of the broken language meeting as long as possible!).
More stories about buying medications in foreign lands here: www.traveldiabetes.com
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:17 am Post subject: |
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JLL,
Your experience is not the norm in Japan for getting prescriptions. In fact, I'd say it was darned rare! |
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