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[Knaved]

This two advertised on another site caught my eye!! Any takers?

[Vteacher]

Agreed, these pay levels are ludicrous, but you can bet anything that someone will take them up on it. I've written at length on this subject in the past, so there's no point in adding much more. However, and by way of a reality check, my last EFL job in the sub-saharan oil industry carried a $450 pd rate, no tax, everything included. This is actually low, by industry standards. A reasonable tech teacher (process/electrical etc) would be on around $600-700 per day. Incidentally, my central africa job was safer (by far), more comfortable, better organised, etc etc by a country mile, than the shambles of a position I had in Libya.

[Knaved]

[oilmart1]

Yes most of these companies must be taking a huge cut themselves. I turned down an offer with a company recently advertising who got a contract with Shell....I waited for their offer...........8hours/day 40/week (6 teaching hours/day other hours can be done 'at home')

�1500/month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
free accommodation/flights
1 month paid holiday after 6 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought about it because it is Shell but I decided not to take up the offer as it is ridiculous in my opinion....1500/month you can get that signing on the dole, claiming housing/council tax benefit and part-time taxi driving (cash jobs)

[Knaved]

[officeboy]

One of the worst things is, as an employer, how do you compete, we offer the best salary (for an agency) in Libya as far as I have seen (not quite on par with direct hire, but damn close).
The only draw back is we come across as damn expensive, we don't want to get into the cut price job market, we want experienced teachers who will last the contract, giving continuity for the trainees.
The mentality out here is slowly changing, you get what you pay for, it's hard work.
I totally agree, those that take these jobs just make it harder for everyone. The problem is there will always be newbies or holiday makers that see these positions as a way of making some money (all be it a small amount) and gaining experience of both rotational work and Libya.
It'll get there guy's, patience is the key.

[sharter]

I'm direct hire with a large oil company on 6 and 3. Anything less than 30k GBP just ain't worth it. People need to understand that even clean drinking water can be an issue on some plants. Libyan bosses can also delight in wrecking your days. Recruiters get about 50k for your annual services. It can be hard to be patient when you've run out of bogroll, your AC's broken,you've lost touch with the world through no email access and your Libyan boss makes your life hell cos of the great big chip he has on his shoulder. Libya is a total head-do and the money should reflect this for everyone.

[Knaved]

So, how long before we see the first sub �1000 pcm Libyan job offer?

[officeboy]

Oh trust me, there have been at least two on TEFL.com in the last two months, 850 pcm.....

[Knaved]

Degree, CELTA and experience optional. Knowledge of average TEFL salaries in Libya not required!

[officeboy]

As a general update guy's, I am seeing a few adverts that still state "Tax Free".
The UK and Libya have now signed a reciprocal tax agreement, so you need to make sure you go through a good tax advisor. If your are domiciled in the UK, working in Libya on a business visa, you will be taxed by the UK once the agreement kicks in (Jan 2011 I believe) If you are on a residence visa you will be paying tax in Libya.

[oilmart1]

I have a friend who has got a job with UTG and even they only pay �2k per month and �3k quarterly, ie 8 months @ 2k, 4 months @ 3k (i think he meant) which comes to 28k. This is a desert rotation (2.5 hr flight from tripoli)

I think that's about top whack I have heard of for Libya. I haven't seen any jobs going for 30k+

[sharter]

I make more than that at that hole in Brega.