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lowest & highest salary for subject teachers in China

 
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MiainChina



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:10 am    Post subject: lowest & highest salary for subject teachers in China Reply with quote

Hi,
I am a subject teacher for Chemistry and Biology and I am new in China. I was wondering what are the lowest and highest acceptable salary ranges?

I have met a few people that earn 8000rmb and I have met people that are making 25,000rmb per months teaching subjects.

Also how can one identify whether a school is good when considering salary.

What is your experience

cheers
Mia
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MiainChina



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brookesdara wrote:
I can assure you that when salary is the primary thought of what makes a good school you'll go wrong.


so what makes a school good?

I mostly get jibber jabber replies and my questions seem never to be answered. Its been like this with all schools I applied for so I am a bit uncertain about my chances finding the right fit.

thanks for your response
Mia
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Laurence



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

25000 per month is an international school salary

8000 per month is a typical salary for a domestic school / institution

Not many members of this site earn 25000 per month - this is a website primarily for ESL teachers, not certified subject teachers.

The best way to know if a school is good or not is to contact teachers currently working there - your recruitment contact should help you with that,
although seasoned TEFLers develop a 'bogey school radar' and can spot a smarmy FAO a mile off.


What salary is acceptable for you?

some variables:
- where do you want to live?
- do you need to save money?
- how much work do you want to do?
- what kind of school do you want to work in?
- do you want to work part time and supplement your income with private tuition?
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MiainChina



Joined: 10 May 2010
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laurence wrote:
25000 per month is an international school salary

8000 per month is a typical salary for a domestic school / institution

Not many members of this site earn 25000 per month - this is a website primarily for ESL teachers, not certified subject teachers.

The best way to know if a school is good or not is to contact teachers currently working there - your recruitment contact should help you with that,
although seasoned TEFLers develop a 'bogey school radar' and can spot a smarmy FAO a mile off.


What salary is acceptable for you?

some variables:
- where do you want to live?
- do you need to save money?
- how much work do you want to do?
- what kind of school do you want to work in?
- do you want to work part time and supplement your income with private tuition?


Thanks for your reply. Do you maybe know where else I can find subject teachers like myself?

The information on here is really helpful and I appreciate all of you feedback sofar.

cheers
Mia
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The Ever-changing Cleric



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brookesdara wrote:
I can assure you that when salary is the primary thought of what makes a good school you'll go wrong.

I don't think anyone is foolish enough to simply consider salary on its own when determining if a school is good or not. But when considered WITH other factors, the salary offered can be a very good indicator of the quality of a school:

1. do they pay qualified teachers a decent salary in order to attract and retain them? A qualified science teacher is not your run of the mill oral English teacher, and the transition to teaching English won't be difficult. Anyway, pay peanuts and you attract monkeys.

2. during the job search/application period, does the school answer questions related to educational concerns or do they focus solely on other issues?

3. the campus/building and the equipment. does it meet student needs? multimedia? comfort (working aircon in rooms v. broken fans)?


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MiainChina



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right now I am looking at the Ameson Institute for Foreign Languages and Cultural Exchange. www.ameson.org and www.amesoninstitute.org

They have given me the best feedback on my questions related to subjects and classes and environment sofar but does anyone on this site know of them or has worked for them?

I am looking at other institutions as well but as I say I am very new to this field and just worried to make the wrong decisions and to miss any aspects I should cover

cheers
Mia
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NOT HUIJIA



Joined: 12 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

100% best way to tell if a school is "good" or not is to find out what % of teachers stay on for a second contract.


I don't know why people say to talk to a teacher. I can guarantee that a school is going to hook you up with a total kissass foreign teacher who will slant things. I mean, the school isn't going to put you online with a disgruntled complainer, are they?


Just ask, how many teachers are you looking for this year? Oh, why so many?
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malu



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of years ago I worked as a biology teacher at what might be called a second division international school near Guangzhou. At that time science teachers were making from RMB15000 to RMB21000 plus accom. and a few other minor perks.
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Zero



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Bona fide international school: 25,000 yuan/month, maybe higher, depending on subject and experience level. Requires teaching license in own country and two years' experience.

-Second-rate international school: 10,000 to 15,000 yuan. May hire you without teaching license or with less than two years' experience.

-Private school marketing itself with international flavor (wanna be international school): 7,000 to 12,000 RMB. Requirements same as "second-rate" above.
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mike w



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can your teaching subjects and/or work experience be transitioned into the corporate world?

If they can, then look at giving schools a miss.

I teach English and Engineering in a Chinese multinational - starting my fifth year next month and I'm at the top end of the pay scale. Never looked back since making the switch over.

Working conditions etc. are infinitely better than at most schools / colleges / language mills.
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JennyJK



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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, out if interest sake how did you find a job in a multinational? I'm currently working as an esl teacher but am being interviewed tomorrow for a Business Studies/Economics position. Working in a company sounds like an ideal opportunity for me.
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mike w



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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenny.

Like most of the 'better' jobs in China, it wasn't openly advertised. I heard about it from a 'friend of a friend'.
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