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Rorito
Joined: 03 May 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: Where in the world should I work? Please, help! |
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Where in the world can a guy with no real teaching credential, but 10 years teaching experience get a good job? I have taught English to adult immigrants for years in LA. I only have the Ryan Single Subject Credential that I got in order to teach Adult School. I was basically given that just for having a BA in art. Should I go to a TEFL course?
I have traveled a lot. I could not take the food in Ecuador and the Philippines after two months. I love Thai food, but I am not sure I can take the heat and humidity. I speak some Spanish and would consider Mexico, Uruguay, Colombia, etc. It would be nice to improve my Spanish. Also I would consider Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, etc. Maybe Brazil too. Even if I do narrow it down to a single country, I still have to decide a city. Bogota is cool and wet and possibly dangerous and depressing. Guadalajara sounds nice, but I don't know if I will get work that pays enough to live on there. Monte Video sounds nice, but I don't know if I could get a job there before March. Chiang Mai sounds nice, but overrun with English teachers. It takes me two months to adjust to the time change in Asia, so that has to be considered. I might not have the money to hang out that long. I am not working now so money is not coming in. I only have two thousand dollars. I don't want a job that includes doing office work for the company. I am a very slow office worker. I want to teach about twenty hours a week. I am not a socially outgoing person. I am good in class, but am not going to run all over begging for work. I am nervous, but I really want to do this. I want to go. Please, help. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Where in the world should I work? Please, help! |
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Rorito wrote: |
Where in the world can a guy with no real teaching credential, but 10 years teaching experience get a good job? . |
Define good
high salary?
long vacation?
easy classes?
chance to travel?
good lifestyle?
etc? |
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Rorito
Joined: 03 May 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: The sweet life |
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Thank you for your reply. I'm certainly not looking for the big money. I just want a bed and bathroom in a little room in an exotic location. I would like to work for a year and then travel when my contract is up. I don't want to work hard for long hours. I want to enjoy life. I want a light heart and a love in every port. Is it too much to ask?  |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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Rorito wrote: |
Thank you for your reply. I'm certainly not looking for the big money. I just want a bed and bathroom in a little room in an exotic location. I would like to work for a year and then travel when my contract is up. I don't want to work hard for long hours. I want to enjoy life. I want a light heart and a love in every port. Is it too much to ask?  |
Yes, to be frank, it is.
Your views seem quite hedonistic.
Don't work hard.
Don't do paperwork in a white collar job.
Girl in every port. (This will attract a lot of negative responses.) |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:11 am Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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Glenski wrote: |
Rorito wrote: |
Thank you for your reply. I'm certainly not looking for the big money. I just want a bed and bathroom in a little room in an exotic location. I would like to work for a year and then travel when my contract is up. I don't want to work hard for long hours. I want to enjoy life. I want a light heart and a love in every port. Is it too much to ask?  |
Yes, to be frank, it is.
Your views seem quite hedonistic.
Don't work hard.
Don't do paperwork in a white collar job.
Girl in every port. (This will attract a lot of negative responses.) |
Glenski, nice to see you cross over to the LA forum
Thing is a place to live and a visa and a flight aren't common in Latin America. Many people border hop, they don't even have visas, forget about housing and flights.
Mexico seems to be the exception. Try applying to jobs there.
As for love in every port. . . with what we know now about diseases, etc, that's not the wisest choice.
Average salary in latin america is probably around 700 bucks. You can live well, but saving is tough. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Mexico seems to be the exception. Try applying to jobs there. |
On everything except the flights and housing...that can be found here but it is far from common. |
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TeresaLopez

Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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Average salary in latin america is probably around 700 bucks. <<<<<
At least in Mexico City I would say that is on the low end. That's about what *I* earn, but I am only working 15 hours a week, so that might be an option. If you want to live a simple life in Mexico City you can easily live on 4000 pesos - rent a "cuarto de azotea" for 1000 pesos or so, find a good fonda and eat the comida for 40 pesos a day, breakfast on coffee and a roll, go without dinner if the comida is ample, or have a couple of tacos or something for 10 or 15 pesos. Buses are cheap, the Metro is cheap, fruits and vegetables are cheap. You CAN work 20 hours a week and live pretty well, just depends on your priorities. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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TeresaLopez wrote: |
Average salary in latin america is probably around 700 bucks. <<<<<
At least in Mexico City I would say that is on the low end. That's about what *I* earn, but I am only working 15 hours a week, so that might be an option. If you want to live a simple life in Mexico City you can easily live on 4000 pesos - rent a "cuarto de azotea" for 1000 pesos or so, find a good fonda and eat the comida for 40 pesos a day, breakfast on coffee and a roll, go without dinner if the comida is ample, or have a couple of tacos or something for 10 or 15 pesos. Buses are cheap, the Metro is cheap, fruits and vegetables are cheap. You CAN work 20 hours a week and live pretty well, just depends on your priorities. |
Hm, Guess Mexico is better than South America. Peru would be 500 to 700, maybe 800 if you were willing to work yourself to death. What's the pay like in Mexico? 5 usd the hour in Peru. up to 20, but you'll need expeience and connections. |
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spanglish
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 742 Location: working on that
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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In Bogota (second highest cost of living in Latin America, after Caracas) you'll make $900/month, 16 hours/week (in-company classes) at International House, with visa and end of year bonus that'll cover like 1/2 your plane ticket. That's barely enough to break even but leaves you with a bit of spare time for privates. |
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TeresaLopez

Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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What's the pay like in Mexico? 5 usd the hour in Peru. up to 20, but you'll need expeience and connections.[/quote]
I would say that is probably about the same range in Mexico, but without experience. 5 USD is on the low end, most of the decent schools (language institutes) pay in the 7 USD range, with a decent benefits package, help getting your visa, etc. Private classes range from 12 (really low end) USD to 25 USD, with the average being in the 16 to 18 USD range. International Schools pay is quite a bit higher, and can range from 1400 USD to 2000 USD with a great benefits package, but trust me, you earn it. And you have to be, or have been, certified to teach in the US, UK, Ireland or Canada. This is my experience, your mileage may vary. I live on around 400 USD per month, but I do own my place, so that makes a big difference. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:08 am Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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TeresaLopez wrote: |
I would say that is probably about the same range in Mexico, but without experience. 5 USD is on the low end, most of the decent schools (language institutes) pay in the 7 USD range, with a decent benefits package, help getting your visa, etc. Private classes range from 12 (really low end) USD to 25 USD, with the average being in the 16 to 18 USD range. International Schools pay is quite a bit higher, and can range from 1400 USD to 2000 USD with a great benefits package, but trust me, you earn it. And you have to be, or have been, certified to teach in the US, UK, Ireland or Canada. This is my experience, your mileage may vary. I live on around 400 USD per month, but I do own my place, so that makes a big difference. |
Seems like Mexico is a lot better. I'd say there are a handful of good places in LIma that pay 5 to 10, BUT you'll get NO visa, housing, or flight. If you're getting 10 in Lima, you'd consider yourself very lucky.
Intl schools are another matter, further dividiing the teachers. 2 to 5K a month with housing, visas, and flights isn't uncommon. |
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eclectic
Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 1122
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:31 am Post subject: |
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As for love in every port. . . with what we know now about diseases, etc, that's not the wisest choice.
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What do we know NOW?
So you went from Mexico to Korea? |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: The sweet life |
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Rorito wrote: |
Thank you for your reply. I'm certainly not looking for the big money. I just want a bed and bathroom in a little room in an exotic location. I would like to work for a year and then travel when my contract is up. I don't want to work hard for long hours. I want to enjoy life. I want a light heart and a love in every port. Is it too much to ask?  |
Sounds like you were born to teach in a university in China. Maybe in a second- or third-tier city rather than Beijing, Shanghai or Guangzhou. |
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evolving81
Joined: 04 May 2009 Posts: 135 Location: Tampa
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in a similar situation. Not as much teaching experience as the OP but about to graduate with my MA in Applied Linguistics in August and not sure where to go. Ideally, I'd like to teach adults, make enough money to live, and add some to my savings account.
@ Zero: I've applied to a few places in China but the pay is so low. Even with accommodation paid for I don't see how $500 USD would be enough for me for a month.
Love in every port...I guess I could take that or leave it...  |
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