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bingmayong



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Teaching in Yemen Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone have any information or experience teaching in Yemen? I'm curious about conditions, safety, teachers living standard, etc

Thanks!
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you try using the search? There are three or four threads on the first couple pages here.

VS
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safety is an issue.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm curious about conditions, safety,


Good idea to keep up-to-date on international news. Recently people were kidnapped as tourists traveling in Yemen. And there is a proxy war going on there just now between the US and al-Qaeda, being on the surface fought between the Yemeni govt and some "radical imams".

Dont think its a great time IMO to be hauling off to San' aa right now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that one is likely safe in Sana'a... but it would be terrible to be in Yemen and not get to travel around the country.

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eclectic



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah would love to find the mysteriously enticing frankincense and myrrh trail.

Sana'a
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Sana'a

Sana'aLocation in Yemen
Coordinates: 15�20′54″N 44�12′23″E / 15.34833�N 44.20639�E / 15.34833; 44.20639

Sana'a (Arabic: صنعاء‎,
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smedini



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a student here who is from Syria. Just before immigrating to Canada, he had been stationed to work in Yemen for 18 months. He said he and all on the team were terrified the entire time. And that was in Sanaa; it was much worse, he said, when they worked in other places in the country. This is a fairly conservative guy who shares the same religion and language as the bulk of the people in Yemen (not to overlook the inevitable variances, subtle and otherwise, of course) and he couldn't wait to get out of there. Even before hearing that, Yemen was one of the few countries I wouldn't want to visit anytime soon; his declaration only solidified it's place on my list.

IMHO
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting look at inter-Arab relationships. One thinks of so many Levantine Arabs as being educated and cosmopolitcan... and Yemenis are probably as exotic to them as they are to us. Laughing I've had a couple friends teach there within the last 5 years - in very different situations - and they both loved it.

But, to me there always seems to be trouble brewing just below the surface. One of the two is planning on going back to study Arabic. It will be interesting to see if he decides against it.

VS
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you are in Yemen avoid the triangle of kidnapping and death. If not, your resort will be like the two Americans tourists who were kidnapped last month near the triangle of kidnapping and death near Sanaan:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10146882.stm

eclectic wrote:
Yeah would love to find the mysteriously enticing frankincense and myrrh trail.

Well, when I was in the Magic Kingdom, I used to buy the Yemeni frankincense (the golden one which is the best in the region), and has an aromatic taste (different to the taste of camel milk with zangabeel! Laughing ).
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sliim



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to teach in Yemen, you must take some precautions. There is always a degree of instability there, and sometimes there is more than others. Yemen right now is pretty unstable, but that does not mean that one should not go. Here are some thoughts that might help. I've mentioned some before on other threads, but I will try to put some brief points that might be of some help:

(1) Work for a good employer. Go with: Amideast, YCMES, YALI, British Council. Avoid: ALC, MALI. Other locally run institutes are "at your own risk."

(2) Take health precautions. Hospitals are not well-equipped. Only go to Yemen if you are in good health and have no serious or chronic conditions.

(3) Travel safely within the country. Hire a guard to travel in remote areas, or take internal flights (usually quite cheap) from city to city. Buses are also safe as far as I am concerned, and if it is not, a reputable bus company will not let foreigners on anyway.

(4) Do not get involved in North vs. South or Houthi vs. Gov't issues. Stay away from protests and the like. This is generally what to do in any country anyway. No different here.


Hope it helps.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, when I was in the Magic Kingdom, I used to buy the Yemeni frankincense (the golden one which is the best in the region), and has an aromatic taste (different to the taste of camel milk with zangabeel! ).


SOunds great 007. Is it used to flavor drinks? Also, just for the record, is hot camels' milk with zanjabeel ever mentioned in either the Hadith or Qur 'an, as you are always refering to it as a severe thing.
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Pikgitina



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smedini wrote:
I have a student here who is from Syria. Just before immigrating to Canada, he had been stationed to work in Yemen for 18 months. He said he and all on the team were terrified the entire time. And that was in Sanaa; it was much worse, he said, when they worked in other places in the country. This is a fairly conservative guy who shares the same religion and language as the bulk of the people in Yemen (not to overlook the inevitable variances, subtle and otherwise, of course) and he couldn't wait to get out of there. Even before hearing that, Yemen was one of the few countries I wouldn't want to visit anytime soon; his declaration only solidified it's place on my list.

IMHO
~smedini


Not a single Arab student of mine (perhaps with the exception of a few Yemeni-Saudis) who knows that I have been to and LOVE Yemen was able to understand why I found it so fascinating. For 99% of Gulf Arabs, it seems that Yemen is a joke!

In this case, I would not agree with your Syrian student's point of view (which is of no importance at all, I know). I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think that most people will feel "terrified the entire time" in many parts of Yemen. Like VS pointed out, in the case of your student's feelings, there are inter-Arab relationship issues at play.

For people who want to teach there or travel around a bit, guide books, guides and tour companies in Yemen are very clear about which places to go to and which to avoid.

It's not a good time to go to Yemen, but if you stay away from the hotspots and follow sliim's advice, you will most likely be fine!
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but if you stay away from the hotspots


007 has a hard time doing that.
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CDAN



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had also considered Yemen, but, since the Canadian embassy is currently recommending people avoid all travel there, I have crossed it off my list. A shame, as it looks like a beautiful country.

This is a total aside, but how accurate do you expats find these warnings from your respective embassies?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear CDAN,

In my experience, it's impossible to make a all-inclusive statement about "embassy warnings." Many of them, I think, are inspired by "CYA" (Cover Your Posterior.)
The problem is that some probably should be taken seriously (and I think the one about Yemen is an example of that.)

But it's like "The Boy Who Cried Wolf." All this hyperbolic ones can make a "real one" hard to credit.

Regards,
John
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