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Is Mexico too dangerous now?
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dixie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady wrote:
Thought I'd share something a long-time Mexican friend living in Chiapas said to me in an email this past week. I don't think they were referring to the weather Wink

Are you going to be in Veracruz next year again? Is it not getting a little too rough?

Best regards,
Dragonlady


What are they referring to?
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: further Reply with quote

The 25% violent crime rate sounds right for taxi drivers in the US as well. Having owned a hack, I can attest to the vast number of cab drivers who have criminal records, myself excluding. Somehow, the profession itself draws an inordinate number of people with criminal records.
Violent history can include assault and battery in a bar when another cabrone insulted you, fighting over a woman, an argument over a loan, etc. etc. Each are violent crimes.
As for the cabs in Mexico City, I would say they are probably more dangerous than those in most other cities, but not by much. Having said that I had one student three years ago who was raped by two men who climbed into her cab when the cabbie suddenly stopped in the middle of the street.
She now takes down the name of each cab driver she meets as well as the plate number and telephones her mother. If she doesn�t call her mother to confirm her safe arrival, the mother calls the police.
And the incident occurred 13 years ago!
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: TJ too Reply with quote

geaaronson wrote:
The 25% violent crime rate sounds right for taxi drivers in the US as well. Having owned a hack, I can attest to the vast number of cab drivers who have criminal records, myself excluding. Somehow, the profession itself draws an inordinate number of people with criminal records.
Violent history can include assault and battery in a bar when another cabrone insulted you, fighting over a woman, an argument over a loan, etc. etc. Each are violent crimes.
As for the cabs in Mexico City, I would say they are probably more dangerous than those in most other cities, but not by much. Having said that I had one student three years ago who was raped by two men who climbed into her cab when the cabbie suddenly stopped in the middle of the street.
She now takes down the name of each cab driver she meets as well as the plate number and telephones her mother. If she doesn�t call her mother to confirm her safe arrival, the mother calls the police.
And the incident occurred 13 years ago!


Sad but true.

I had a novia in TJ who told me about the time in a taxi ruta (collective cab) when some guy started to touch and grab her, she yelled for help from the cabbie and the other passengers, all of whom did/said nothing. She jumped out at a stoplight.
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that is sad. I had some guy grab my behind in the Metro once, and when I turned around and confronted him an older gentleman came to my aid, grabbed the guy by the arm and escorted him off the train at the next stop. I have actually seen the call someone with your cab driver's plate number advice given in guide books for women on staying safe. It's not a bad idea, really.
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:47 pm    Post subject: Ladies only taxis Reply with quote

I think almost every city in Mexico has taxis exclusively for females, with female drivers. Just ask around.

If any of you ladies are living in or visiting Veracruz (city) or Boca del Rio you can call Mireya Chavez Matus. Her cell: (044) 2291 38 86 93

I've never had a problem with taxi drivers, and I miss the colectivos in Chiapas.

Something you don't ever want to do here (where I live) is get into a police vehicle. If you're in trouble, flag down a taxi (how ironic) Rolling Eyes. Have them take you home, to a friend's house, the hospital, or directly to the main police station.

Best regards,
Dragonlady
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have NO female members of the taxista unions here in Mazatlan. Definitely an example of the "old boy's club" hehe That said, I have never felt unsafe in a taxi here. Can't speak for police cars, because I have never had the opportunity to test those waters. Does riding on the back of a cute policeman's motorcycle count? hehe
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
... I have never had the opportunity to test those waters. Does riding on the back of a cute policeman's motorcycle count? hehe

I've never had the opportunity to test those waters Very Happy

Our dreamy guys here Samantha are the naval officers. Sighhhhh
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh yes, sooo very many uniforms (in town, these days!) so little time! If we had to think of one positive thing about the current "climate" in Mexico, it's definitely the hot scenery, here to serve and protect, verdad?
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't tested either of those waters, but I am a sucker for a man in a mariachi suit.........though I guess you can get a twofer - there is a contingent of police officers on horseback in the Alameda who wear mariachi uniforms. It kind of ruins it, though, to see them talking on a cell phone.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL! Do they have real guns, or are they tourist attractions? A photo would be good!
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeresaLopez wrote:
... I am a sucker for a man in a mariachi suit.........though I guess you can get a twofer ...

There's likely good reasons why the heads are cut off... oh, but look, no beer bellies!
http://www.casadelmariachi.com/charrosuit.htm
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had female taxi drivers perhaps a grand total of three times in DF...and it always surprises me. I've always asked the female drivers about it and the response every time has been that they are covering for their husbands.

Taxis in Mexico City are pretty safe. I flag them off the street all the time. The only thing I ever suffer with some of them are being charged the wrong rate...pure nickle and diming, easily fixed if you know what the rate should be and speak Spanish. I have one taxi service I use if I need a cab after midnight or if I'm going to the airport with a bunch of gear.

The usual advice for Mexico City and cabs is not to hail one off the street late at night. Rather a moot bit of advice since you're not likely to find one late anyway.

Some of my best political discussions have been with taxi drivers actually...I love getting a chatty cabbie!


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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
.I love getting a chatty cabbie!


Me too, though the discussions aren't always about politics. Yesterday a cabbie and I were having a chat about this and that, and I said he was still a young man and he told me he was 46, and then asked how old I was. I demurred and asked how old he thought I was. He took about 10 years off my age, which definitely made my day! Very Happy
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kidefl



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know much about taxis but I'd like to add something to the OP.
I lived in five states for 21 years. I always felt right at home in Mexico. The crime was always petty stuff. Never had a car stolen although one year when I was in Guadalajara I read a stat that 75 cars a day were nicked.

I have lived in all kinds of neighborhoods. One is infamous; Aldama in old Guadalajara. I was a musician so I was home late quite a bit. Hookers and dealers all over the streets, some guys even warned me about being out that late. Never had an incident though.

So that's 21 years of living pretty much in the trenches without a mugging or major property loss.

I'm fixing to go back soon, probably die there. I always envied The Old Gringo.
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kidefl wrote:
...I lived in... I always felt... crime was always petty stuff. Never had a car stolen... when I was in Guadalajara I read a stat...I have lived in all kinds of neighborhoods... I was a musician so I was home late quite a bit. ... some guys even warned me about ... Never had an incident though.

So that's 21 years of living pretty much in the trenches without a mugging or major property loss.

...I always envied The Old Gringo.

All past tense verbs... how long ago has it been? And if you have a free moment, could you pick me up a lotto 6/49?

Best regards,
Dragonlady
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