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Just can't get it into my head
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guty



Joined: 10 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr J,
I know that mnemonic exists, but can never remember if its
Spring forward or spring backward
so no use to me
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SueH



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Location: Northern Italy

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Waxwing,

but it wouldn't compile or run on my machine...maybe it just doesn't like Lear.

Are you a refugee too?
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Sara Avalon



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colons and semi-colons.. I still avoid those buggers like the bubonic plague. I have bookmarks galore and still no concrete understanding of their uses! Confused
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salmon



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Just can't get it into my head Reply with quote

guty wrote:
Dr J,
I know that mnemonic exists, but can never remember if its
Spring forward or spring backward
so no use to me


No doubt you know but it's 'Spring forward' and 'Fall backward'
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kakapo



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Just can't get it into my head Reply with quote

Love grows (where my Rosemary goes)

Edison Lighthouse (1970)

She ain't got no money
Her clothes are kinda funny
Her hair is kinda wild and free
Oh, but love grows where my Rosemary goes
And nobody knows like me



Dmb is a little hard on himself. It is quite proper that he can recall the number one song from February 1970 but, on the other hand, is not able to define 'scanning' and 'skimming'. Love grows is memorable for a number of reasons.

First, it provides an early example of corporate sponsorship in popular music, though it was (and still is) unclear why a US utilities company would put its name to a pop group from the UK. (Undeterred by the failure of their initial venture, Edison later banded together with other US utilities in a generic branding exercise to help launch the eminently more successful UK group Electric Light Orchestra aka ELO.)

Second, the song's lyrics perfectly evoke an era sadly long gone. A time much less materialistic than today, a time of de rigueur floral and paisley prints, and a time when grooming (quite rightly) took a back seat to grooving. Add a melody any listener just can't get out of their head.

Finally, Love grows has real resonance for dmb. It was at the top of the charts in the month of his birth. (I apologise if my inference is incorrect.)

So dmb has no reason to be apologetic for remembering Love grows while forgetting 'scanning' and 'skimming'. Any dummy can recite, "'Scanning' is reading for detail; 'skimming' is reading for gist." (I just did. Wink ) However it takes a special mental facility to say what song was at number one in February 1970.


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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Memory. I am in that state of senile decay where I have problems with dates.

I usually get the day of the week right. Sometimes even the date, including the right month. It is the year that foxes me. I have to keep calendars everywhere to remind me that this is the Year of Grace..........................................
eh............................2004 !

I suppose it is downhill all the way from here.

What I need is a secretary. Any volunteers ?
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, it's conditionals. As many times as I've taught lessons involving conditionals, I still have to review what they're called just before teaching them: first, second, and third conditional, but then some texts have a zero conditional, and others toss in terms like past conditional and future conditional. If I memorize them today, I'll forget them by tomorrow.
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@kakapo, Id forgotten I'd posted that.

@BRTB, what about mixed conditionals
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isabel



Joined: 07 Mar 2003
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Location: God's green earth

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
waxwing

To me language is a visual thing. I have to see a word before I can learn it.


I'm so glad to hear someone say that. I feel like a bit of an idiot that way. I have to learn languages through writing and reading. It is so frustrating to see people learn by just listening.

You are probably right about it coming from childhood reading (I spent mine tucked into a book as much as possible). I always attibuted it to needing to understand the logic and structure of a language, as opposed to listening and memorizing. But maybe I flatter myself.
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