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jbourne
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: USA-Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:16 am Post subject: an overwhelmed newbie's general questions |
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Hi everyone! Where should I begin...
My experience:
I am a 25 year old graduate student. I am a native of North Carolina, USA. This is also where I currently reside.
When I graduate from this program (Spring 2011), I will have a graduate certificate in secondary education (concentration in history). This basically means that I will be a little over halfway to reaching my master's degree in secondary education. I will be licensed to teach, and I will have a semester's worth of experience teaching within a public high school.
I spent two years mentoring children of all ages, who had developmental and/or psychological disorders.
I also have a BA in psychology.
Where I need help:
I have very little experience traveling, and I have never really had the means with which to gain more. I have always been VERY interested in countries and cultures different than my own. I have always loved academia as well. Therefore, teaching abroad seems like a great way to embrace these two passions of mine.
For a while now I have researched the best way to achieve this goal. However, I have become a bit overwhelmed. I have run across so many websites and books with contradictory information. I am not sure what certifications I would need to teach where. I am unsure as to what websites, certifications, and other information sources have more credibility than others.
I am really very interested in teaching in east Asia, or Europe. Though, I would consider teaching basically anywhere. I have read though that the demand for english teachers in Japan is declining. I have also read that it can be difficult for an American to be hired to teach in Europe, for a variety of reasons.
Where would a person with my background be most likely to land a decent position teaching? I would imagine that China would be the largest new market for this sort of thing.
What certification providers are legitimate? Do I even need a certification?
Any insight or resources that you all could provide me I would be greatly appreciative of. Thank you! |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Is there any particular reason you're thinking about teaching English and not history? I'm asking because of your comment about liking academia. Many (most?) entry-level English teaching jobs are far from academic, so you might be disappointed. There are some universities that actually feel academic, with conferences and seminars and whatnot, but you generally need an MA + a few years of experience for those jobs.
If you stick with history (you'd need more than one semester of experience), you can apply to international schools. Since I didn't go that route myself, I can't comment on how academic they are, but at least you'd be surrounded by other career teachers who, in theory, are interested in education--not necessarily the case in language schools.
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| You could add an ESL endorsement (or whatever North Carolina calls it) to your teaching certificate (it always helps to have extra endorsements) and then get a couple of years of experience teaching in North Carolina before heading overseas to, say, an international school (e.g. those under the IBO umbrella www.ibo.org) or the Department of Defense school system. Another option is to get your teaching certificate and go teach in one of our trust territories (Guam, American Samoa, etc.), which would be a good jumping off point to travel around Asia in your spare time. |
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jbourne
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: USA-Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| denise wrote: |
Is there any particular reason you're thinking about teaching English and not history? I'm asking because of your comment about liking academia. Many (most?) entry-level English teaching jobs are far from academic, so you might be disappointed. There are some universities that actually feel academic, with conferences and seminars and whatnot, but you generally need an MA + a few years of experience for those jobs.
If you stick with history (you'd need more than one semester of experience), you can apply to international schools. Since I didn't go that route myself, I can't comment on how academic they are, but at least you'd be surrounded by other career teachers who, in theory, are interested in education--not necessarily the case in language schools.
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I have thought about teaching history abroad, but really I just felt that I might have an easier time getting a job teaching english. I think that I would really enjoy teaching english as well.
My older sister taught english in Taiwan during the late 1990's. The school that she was working at has since gone under. Much of the advice in this area that she could give me is obsolete at this point. However, she has helped me understand what the general experience might be like for me. |
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jbourne
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: USA-Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| You could add an ESL endorsement (or whatever North Carolina calls it) to your teaching certificate (it always helps to have extra endorsements) and then get a couple of years of experience teaching in North Carolina before heading overseas to, say, an international school (e.g. those under the IBO umbrella www.ibo.org) or the Department of Defense school system. Another option is to get your teaching certificate and go teach in one of our trust territories (Guam, American Samoa, etc.), which would be a good jumping off point to travel around Asia in your spare time. |
Interesting. I had not considered teaching in a territory. That is something that I will look into for sure. |
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natsume
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 409 Location: Chongqing, China
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| jbourne wrote: |
| Chancellor wrote: |
| You could add an ESL endorsement (or whatever North Carolina calls it) to your teaching certificate (it always helps to have extra endorsements) and then get a couple of years of experience teaching in North Carolina before heading overseas to, say, an international school (e.g. those under the IBO umbrella www.ibo.org) or the Department of Defense school system. Another option is to get your teaching certificate and go teach in one of our trust territories (Guam, American Samoa, etc.), which would be a good jumping off point to travel around Asia in your spare time. |
Interesting. I had not considered teaching in a territory. That is something that I will look into for sure. |
I am curious about that as well. Having done no research (yet), Chancellor, do you know how viable of an option this might actually be? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:33 am Post subject: |
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You'll have problems getting a visa in most of Europe, so look at the eastern side only.
As for east Asia, could you be a little more specific? That covers a lot of ground. Visit the country-specific forums for advice on certifications and other requirements.
What do you consider a "decent" teaching position, BTW? (salary, duties, schedule, type of students)
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| When I graduate from this program (Spring 2011), I will have a graduate certificate in secondary education (concentration in history). This basically means that I will be a little over halfway to reaching my master's degree in secondary education. I will be licensed to teach, and I will have a semester's worth of experience teaching within a public high school. |
Most international schools that I have heard about in Japan will want you to teach any subject (not just English), but you have to have a license and 1-2 years of experience from back home. See what other countries have to offer. International schools are probably your best way to go, but hard to say what you are interested in. |
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jbourne
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 11 Location: USA-Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
You'll have problems getting a visa in most of Europe, so look at the eastern side only.
As for east Asia, could you be a little more specific? That covers a lot of ground. Visit the country-specific forums for advice on certifications and other requirements.
What do you consider a "decent" teaching position, BTW? (salary, duties, schedule, type of students)
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| When I graduate from this program (Spring 2011), I will have a graduate certificate in secondary education (concentration in history). This basically means that I will be a little over halfway to reaching my master's degree in secondary education. I will be licensed to teach, and I will have a semester's worth of experience teaching within a public high school. |
Most international schools that I have heard about in Japan will want you to teach any subject (not just English), but you have to have a license and 1-2 years of experience from back home. See what other countries have to offer. International schools are probably your best way to go, but hard to say what you are interested in. |
Yeah that's what I have heard about Europe. So do you think that it would be easier for an American to get a job outside of the EU then?
As for "east asia," I did intend to cover a lot of ground. I have multiple interests in China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam. But yes, I think that checking out the specific forums for these countries would be a good starting point for me.
By "decent job" I just meant one where I can earn enough to not have to worry about money too much while I am abroad. I am not trying to strike it rich or anything necessarily (though that would be nice too lol). I also would not want to work an unreasonable number of hours per week. Being able to travel around a bit while I am working is a must.
I have just started researching some of the international schools.
Thank all of you for your help!< | | |