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21 year-old American male challenges?
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KME0050



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 21 year-old American male challenges? Reply with quote

desert date wrote:
There's also the possibility that he will get a lot of attention from younger Saudi women and this obviously could lead to problems if he doesn't know how to deal with it. . . . The women . . . can be terribly persistent especially if they get hold of your number or Internet contacts like Facebook and Twitter (so he might want to be extra careful with these).


The women too??? I am really surprised (again, haven't been there yet) to learn that these veiled and robed girls would actually pursue a western male. I've actually been pretty shocked by the manner in which American girls have chased after my son, but Saudi girls??? Seriously, what would they want from him?? When they chased after you, were they just after attention?? Given the risks involved for both parties, what on earth do they want?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear KME0050


"Given the risks involved for both parties, what on earth do they want?


The risks - forbidden fruit always tastes sweetest.

Regards,
John

P.S. Not that I (as a geezer) ever had that problem/temptation.
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Mia Xanthi



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would a Saudi girl want with a young American man? Well, once you've been there a while, this will be obvious. Saudi girls, in spite of all the black covering, are anything but nuns. They are normal young women with normal hormones. The braver ones (or racier or whatever you want to call them) "date" Saudi men, but it is very dangerous for them because if the guy decides to tell, he can blackmail her for life. Her very life is in danger if the family is tribal and feels they must kill her to protect tribal honor.

A young attractive American man would offer an opportunity for secret meetings that would never be revealed to the community. He wouldn't know who to tell even if he wanted to damage her reputation. Should the secret get out, she can always claim that he seduced her....and she would be more likely to be believed just because he is American, not Saudi. If she messes around with a Saudi man, SHE is the one who committed the crime. If she messes around with an American man, it is much more likely that the police (while still in total contempt of her) would blame HIM for the crime, because after all he is a non-Muslim and thus does all kinds of wicked things to tempt a poor, innocent Saudi girl into indecent behavior.

Very, very dangerous stuff indeed...although I do know Western men who have gotten caught up in such relationships. Saudi women are beautiful and often appear helpless, which can be hard for any young man to resist.
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BillCowher



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:57 am    Post subject: Blonde & Blue eyed Reply with quote

"For those of you who have lived and worked in Saudi Arabia for some time, can anyone predict any particular challenges a 21 year-old American male might face there? He is smart, outgoing and friendly, a little shy with girls, athletic, and a tall, fair-skinned, blonde, blue-eyed pretty boy. . . problem?

A (Saudi) friend of mine in Abha is already looking around for work opportunities for him, both volunteer and paid. He is studying both graphics arts and elementary education and is working as a teacher's assistant in Morocco right now. (EFL!)

I am hoping that with school, and hopefully work and friends, he can stay busy and happy. However, he is used to having a lot of freedom and a very active social life (including night l"

There is no night life and he is forbidden to talk to women not in his family. Other challenges might include a total lack of booze and there simply is nothing to do in KSA except suffer through it until you can escape.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I alone in having suspicions that the OP is a troll ?
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 21 year-old American male challenges? Reply with quote

[quote="KME0050]The women too??? I am really surprised (again, haven't been there yet) to learn that these veiled and robed girls would actually pursue a western male. I've actually been pretty shocked by the manner in which American girls have chased after my son, but Saudi girls??? Seriously, what would they want from him?? When they chased after you, were they just after attention?? Given the risks involved for both parties, what on earth do they want?[/quote]

Yes, it did cross my mind, or possibly, she's just incredibly naive- uninformed. Given the fact that OP stated that she was a 'bad Catholic'...she should know better... Very Happy
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007



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Am I alone in having suspicions that the OP is a troll ?

Well, Unle Scott, you are always suspicious, especially with cats! Laughing
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Gerund



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Am I alone in having suspicions that the OP is a troll ?


Yes, you need to do more thinking and less posting. Less sid too.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Gerund,

scot47 and sid have not been friends for, lo, these many, many years. He totals the tee (as do I) - bless him.

Regards,
John
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Gerund



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Gerund,

scot47 and sid have not been friends for, lo, these many, many years.


But the damage is done.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Gerund,

I don't think one can rightly blame sid for any of scot's current idiosyncrasies; after all, sid (and all his relatives) and I used to be such close friends, and look how wonderful a sober person I am these days. Very Happy

Regards,
John
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like johnslat I now lead a righteous life, but it hard to be humble.....................................................
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desert date



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Am I alone in having suspicions that the OP is a troll ?


No, you're not alone. It occured to me too. But my suspicions were really going in a different direction - that the OP is not being truthful about her relationship with the young man in question. Why would anyone want to bring their grown up son, who's already established his independence, with them to anywhere? She does seem overly protective of him, almost territorial...
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You fellows have been in the Gulf too long... Laughing

VS
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all honesty, if one has never been to Saudi Arabia, it would be hard to comprehend just how different is is on the ground compared to the rest of the world. Therefore 'we' should cut some slack to the OP and be thankful there is a forum for her to get first hand info.
It's all there, some of which is slithering just beneath the surface; however, if you choose to dig beneath the surface, you do so at your own risk. Working in Saudi Arabia is akin to peforming a high wire act with no safety net. Be calm. cool and balanced... experience helps! Very Happy


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