Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| MsDooLittle wrote: |
| I would need to be earning at least �30k for it to be worth it. Can anyone give a ball-park idea of post-MA earnings? |
That statement is not the way to explain things, since few of us know what "earning" 30K pounds amounts to in your personal savings. I don't know what the cost of living is like where you are now, nor do we know what your debts are like.
30K pounds is roughly 4 million Japanese yen/year. Pretty darned low in terms of a university job, but you wouldn't be qualified for it anyway with just an MA. Korea and China seem to accept people into uni settings withOUT a master's. Look at their forums to see how much people make.
But you have to take certain things into consideration. Korea, for example, offers rent-free jobs. Japan doesn't. Don't know about China. So, you have more potential to save in Korea. However, if you want to move on, say to Japan, a history of Korean uni work with only a BA will not cut it.
Here are the 2008 figures for the Kansai area in Japan (around Osaka and Kyoto) compiled by the Kansai Private Universities Labor Union. The three highest paying schools are listed at the top of each table, the thirty school average in the middle, and the three lowest paying colleges at the bottom. The yearly salary includes all bonuses but does not include additional sources of revenue, such as research budgets and travel allowances.
30 year old Assistant Professor (sennin), with 1 child.
rank institution yearly salary
top 1 Osaka Geijutsu University 8,155,735
top 2 Kansai University 8,025,190
top 3 Momoyama Gakuen University 7,983,849
bottom 1 Kobe Yamate University, JC 5,434,300
bottom 2 Koysan University 5,287,339
bottom 3 Hagorama University 5,022,000
average 6,896,585
35 year old Associate Professor (jokyoju), 1 child.
rank institution yearly salary
top 1 Osaka Geijutsu University 10,300,115
top 2 Kansai University 9,781,120
top 3 Osaka Tech, Setsunan University 9,708,245
bottom 1 Koysan University 6,606,121
bottom 2 Kobe Yamate University, JC 6,429,288
bottom 3 Hagorama University 5,989,500
average 8,395,591
40 year old Associate Professor (jokyoju), 2 children.
rank institution yearly salary
top 1 Osaka Geijutsu University 12,166,245
top 2 Momoyama Gakuen University 11,131,959
top 3 Kinki University 11,046,775
bottom 1 Koysan University 7,312,032
bottom 2 Kobe Yamate University, JC 7,100,894
bottom 3 Hagorama University 6,837,000
average 9,556,035
45 year old Professor (kyoju), 2 children.
rank institution yearly salary
top 1 Osaka Geijutsu University 13,266,260
top 2 Osaka Tech, Setsunan University 12,543,275
top 3 Momoyama Gakuen University 12,422,759
bottom 1 Koysan University 8,339,884
bottom 2 Hagorama University 7,923,000
bottom 3 Kobe Yamate University, JC 7,551,182
average 10,821,292
50 year old Professor (kyoju), 2 children.
rank institution yearly salary
top 1 Osaka Geijutsu University 14,531,370
top 2 Kinki University 13,641,166
top 3 Momoyama Gakuen University 13,571,284
bottom 1 Koysan University 9,155,078
bottom 2 Hagorama University 8,935,500
bottom 3 Kobe Yamate University, JC 8,344,348
average 11,808,221
The thing about Japan is, most FT work is on a 3-year contract, sometimes renewed once and maybe twice. After that you have to move on. Search for other threads in the Japan forum where I've listed info on what it takes to get a uni job here.
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I'll be leaving a good (but boring, going nowhere) self-employed teaching job.
I think part of my problem is that I am not bored with my work, which I really enjoy (although I do feel I could use some PD to tweak my skills), but I am bored with where I am. |
Which is it? The job or the location? You have contradicted yourself here in 2 posts.
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| Career objectives - I'd like to continue what I'm doing, which is running my own business as a freelance English/business English teacher for adults (including students), perhaps combining university with private |
You wrote "Asia", which covers a wide swath, and if Japan was not on your list, please say so. To do the above in Japan, you'll have to be quite aggressive, as the market here is extremely competitive and full of teachers. Ask the other country-specific forums if it's even possible to do the above, or if visa regulations prohibit it. You could do it (legally) in Japan but it would be practically difficult to get started. There are business English agencies here that would farm you out to clients, if you have the right expertise. Don't know about other countries. |
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