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Alvi



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Subject on Money Reply with quote

Is it true that a teacher could make a decent amount of money in Saudi Arabia? I have read people saying that you can save around $25,000 to $30,000 a year on a salary of 36,000? Is this true?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on job and that depends on qualifications, experience and nationality.

You are being optimistic if you think you will save that much.
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Alvi



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Depends on job and that depends on qualifications, experience and nationality.

You are being optimistic if you think you will save that much.


Hi Scot. It was something that I read somewhere but wasn't so sure.

From what I have gathered on this forum and other places is that teaching at the university level is the best way to go. What kind of job opportunities are there for someone who has a B.A.,a teaching certificate in TESOL in the state of Virginia, and five years experience teaching english as as second language to adults and children? Thanks for any help that anyone can give me.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Male or female ? It makes a difference. two very different and distinct job markets here.
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Alvi



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Male or female ? It makes a difference. two very different and distinct job markets here.


I see. Thanks. I am male and feel that this would be an excellent opportunity, maybe in the near future.
So how to you like teaching there?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the bus driver enjoy driving his bus ?
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007



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Does the bus driver enjoy driving his bus ?

Well, Uncle Scott, it depends on the bus!
If it is a diesel one, then the driver will like it, if it is a gaz one, then the driver will be miserable! Laughing
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Alvi



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Does the bus driver enjoy driving his bus ?


Well, some bus drivers do like driving but most don't I guess. Is it really that bad?
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Mia Xanthi



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Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There do exist teachers in KSA who manage to save such a large percentage of their salaries, but they live a truly miserable existence. Most people find it difficult (or even impossible) to save half of their salaries. The reason is that KSA is, for most people, a really boring and depressing place to live. You can expect to be treated with little dignity and many teachers are placed in sub-standard housing. Just to get through this, you find that you spend a lot of money a) fixing up your housing to make it bearable and less depressing, b) travelling on holidays just to get the he** out of Saudi Arabia, and c) shopping for useless things that you don't need just because there is nothing else to do.

If you are truly dedicated to saving as much money as possible, search previous postings on the (shudder!) 500 Club. Rolling Eyes
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Alvi



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mia Xanthi wrote:
There do exist teachers in KSA who manage to save such a large percentage of their salaries, but they live a truly miserable existence. Most people find it difficult (or even impossible) to save half of their salaries. The reason is that KSA is, for most people, a really boring and depressing place to live. You can expect to be treated with little dignity and many teachers are placed in sub-standard housing. Just to get through this, you find that you spend a lot of money a) fixing up your housing to make it bearable and less depressing, b) travelling on holidays just to get the he** out of Saudi Arabia, and c) shopping for useless things that you don't need just because there is nothing else to do.

If you are truly dedicated to saving as much money as possible, search previous postings on the (shudder!) 500 Club. Rolling Eyes


Mia...Thanks for the reply. The more I read about KSA the more it seems I should focus my teaching aspirations elsewhere. Sorry but what does the 500 club mean? As in postings from a while back? Thanks for your help.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A secretive cult of hermits who come to Midian but insist on worshipping Mammon in the privacy of their cells. So-called because they take a vow to spend no more than 500 SR a month (= US$133). Reviled and avoided by "normal people"
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SaudiJobSeeker



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would probably depend on if you are single or married. Also, if you have children. I would guess that if you are single, you may eat out more and spend more on entertainment. If you are married, at least the cooking and other chores can be divided. You should try to save as much as possible but at the same time don't be so stingy that others call you cheap. Find a middle ground.

best of luck
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LozExpat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So can someone indicate a rough range of salaries for the typical jobs in KSA?

As a newbie I would appreciate knowing what is reasonable to expect, just in broad bush strokes.

Cheers,

Loz
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should expect ticket, free housing, no utility bills and between 9000 SR and 16000 SR a month. Some places give genrerous vacations. Employyrs in the private sector, and contractors tend to be stingy with holidays though. Some employers in the public sector still pay education allowances for children in education in KSA. ARAMCO is the only employer I know that still pays for children's education outside KSA.
There are now very few direct-hire English teachers with ARAMCO.
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LozExpat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So If Direct hire is not the norm, ( right?) how does one avoid the pit falls and elephant traps of the "agencies" recruiting for the decent establishments?

Confused
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