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johntpartee
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 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:44 am Post subject: Z Visa in Hainan? |
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| A recruiter told a colleague that he could enter Hainan with a tourist visa and then the school would do the Z visa in Hainan. I was under the impression that a Z visa had to be obtained in Hong Kong. Anybody know anything? |
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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A recruiter said.....
nuff said.....  |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I know, but...... |
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randyj
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Right. I would hesitate to accept a recruiter's word, especially for something so important, without independent verification. In some provinces, like Jiangsu, foreign teachers have had their L visas converted directly to an RP without benefit of a Z.
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smutbagdisco
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps the recruiter simply meant the school would manage the visa/RP stuff for him instead of the recruiter?
I was under the impression PSB's couldn't issue the Z visa, just give you some of the paperwork to get it from Chinese embassies and consulates outside of the mainland. |
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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| smutbagdisco wrote: |
| I was under the impression PSB's couldn't issue the Z visa, just give you some of the paperwork to get it from Chinese embassies and consulates outside of the mainland. |
you are correct. you cannot get a Z visa inside the mainland, you need to at least go to HK to get one, and an L visa can't be changed into a Z visa which is then turned into a residence permit.
I know someone's going to come on here now and say "Yes you can." |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Perhaps the recruiter simply meant the school would manage the visa/RP stuff for him instead of the recruiter |
Here's the conversation he had with the recruiter:
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[2010-6-18 16:10:40] Julia: so if you like to work in Hainan school, you can get a tourist visa to come to the school from HK, then they can assist you to convert to work visa
[2010-6-18 16:16:38] WST: So when I come to their school with the tourist visa, they pay the travel back to Hong Kong for the Z visa and all fees?
[2010-6-18 16:17:28] Julia: you need not to go to HK
[2010-6-18 16:17:46] Julia: The school will arrange your work visa in the local police station
[2010-6-18 16:18:30] WST: I was under the impression that the work visa could only be obtained in Hong Kong.
[2010-6-18 16:19:36] Julia: no |
I don't think this can be misinterpreted. |
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I suspect the next step is the school denying any knowledge of "julia's" conversation and then concocting some BS related to their inability to get either an invitation letter or residence permit!
Why even take the risk?
Firstly, try contacting the school directly to see if they will provide the invitation letter. If they can't, it's time to get suspicious and knock it in the head IMHO. |
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smutbagdisco
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| johntpartee wrote: |
Here's the conversation he had with the recruiter:
I don't think this can be misinterpreted. |
A quick phone call the school's FAO or even Hainan PSB will sort this out.
Any chance Julia is just telling your friend what he wants to hear?
"No" can sometimes mean, "worry about it later" or "let it be another's problem" in these situations.
I think her info is a bit out of date (if that is even possible considering how long the rules have been in play).
Not trying to take a shot at Julia the Recruiter, but perhaps she just doesn't deal with the visa process much. Recruiters are usually just the equivalent of a dating agency, they have little connection to the legal union of school and foreign teacher. She just wants him signed, sealed and delivered to the school for her commission.
Then again, I could be complete wrong! |
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nickpellatt
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:08 am Post subject: |
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There is a suggestion on Middle Kingdom Life that Hainan PSB can convert L visas.
In at least one province that I am personally aware of, Hainan Province, government officials see no legal contradiction or prohibition in converting a tourist visa into a Z-visa. In fact, I was told this directly by the director of the Haikou municipal PSB.
http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/china-english-teacher-visas.htm | |
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