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Chaudhry



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: The Latest in the University of Hail Reply with quote

Dear All

I wonder if someone can update us with the latest in the Hail University. Whats happening? What are people/faculty doing now a days? How do they assign courses and do they give teaching material? When exactly do the classes start? How many students in a class? What formalities do we have to do when we land or come to the uni for the first time .... ? (Pretty much run through of your personal experience when you first went to the UoH.
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metalval



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

Did you actually go there? What did you find out?
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The Lathe of Heaven



Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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Location: drifting from dream to dream from future to future

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as of this coming new school year (Sept 2010), the UOH is moving to a brand spanking new campus located on a 17 acre plot. All new PYP section with teacher's offices and a teachers common room. Classes will have smart boards (not all of them) and computer labs will abound. I am privy to this information cause I was just at a face to face interview (contrary to popular belief). D says that it is almost finished if not for first or second term then for sure for the third or fourth, which would be 2011.

They interview rigorously. Mine lasted an hour. Needless to say that usually if they interview you here in the KSA you will be offered a position. Usually! There is nothing usual about KSA. I have had post interview chats and D says he's keen on getting me there. I don't know what that means here in KSA also. They are changing their course books from "Headway" to "Side by Side". I have never used this new course book but have used Headway quite extensively. Does anyone know what it's like to teach with this? Will it be enough? Do I need to supplement heavily, lightly, occasionally or not at all?

I have looked around Hail and those volcanic rock formations and mountains around the city are a great distraction, especially if your office window faces in that direction. My first impression of Hail was good because I ate at Micky Dee's and noticed a Pizza Hut and KFC across from it. The temperature was cooler than the place I came from and I commented on this and was surprised because they said it was the hottest summer that they could remember. D looks like he's been there a while sort of like Larry King of the KSA, predates history.

So all in all I would say 6.83 out of 10 for Hail.

Regards.
TLOH
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Mia Xanthi



Joined: 13 Mar 2008
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Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, as of this coming new school year (Sept 2010), the UOH is moving to a brand spanking new campus located on a 17 acre plot. All new PYP section with teacher's offices and a teachers common room. Classes will have smart boards (not all of them) and computer labs will abound. I am privy to this information cause I was just at a face to face interview


And we all know that information presented at a face-to-face interview in KSA is bound to be true because those doing recruitment for teachers at a remote location would never misrepresent the truth in order to meet their quota. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that UoH might be better than PMU. Nicer weather anyway !
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ummkhadija



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

TLOH wrote:" My first impression of Hail was good because I ate at Micky Dee's and noticed a Pizza Hut and KFC across from it."

So, does the Pizza hut and other western establishments like it, use halal meat, or do they use the meat that they would use in the US?

Thanks,

UmmKhadija
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ssn



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lathe of Heaven wrote:
Well, as of this coming new school year (Sept 2010), the UOH is moving to a brand spanking new campus located on a 17 acre plot. All new PYP section with teacher's offices and a teachers common room. Classes will have smart boards (not all of them) and computer labs will abound. I am privy to this information cause I was just at a face to face interview (contrary to popular belief). D says that it is almost finished if not for first or second term then for sure for the third or fourth, which would be 2011.

They interview rigorously. Mine lasted an hour. Needless to say that usually if they interview you here in the KSA you will be offered a position. Usually! There is nothing usual about KSA. I have had post interview chats and D says he's keen on getting me there. I don't know what that means here in KSA also. They are changing their course books from "Headway" to "Side by Side". I have never used this new course book but have used Headway quite extensively. Does anyone know what it's like to teach with this? Will it be enough? Do I need to supplement heavily, lightly, occasionally or not at all?

I have looked around Hail and those volcanic rock formations and mountains around the city are a great distraction, especially if your office window faces in that direction. My first impression of Hail was good because I ate at Micky Dee's and noticed a Pizza Hut and KFC across from it. The temperature was cooler than the place I came from and I commented on this and was surprised because they said it was the hottest summer that they could remember. D looks like he's been there a while sort of like Larry King of the KSA, predates history.

So all in all I would say 6.83 out of 10 for Hail.

Regards.
TLOH




Thanks for the latest information. I am hoping to start from September this year and the length of contract might be 2 years. Since I do not know the place and do not know anybody living there, it is hard to get a clear idea about the place.

So if I do not like the place after going there, will it be a problem if I want to leave after just 1 semester? Will they create any problem with my passport or my exit visa?

Thanks.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all meat is halal - everywhere in ksa
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssn wrote:
So if I do not like the place after going there, will it be a problem if I want to leave after just 1 semester? Will they create any problem with my passport or my exit visa?

Thanks.

Well, it will depend on your contract.
In general, and with direct hire, if you want to leave in the middle of the year without a strong acceptable reason (like medical reason) you have to pay 2 months salary to your employer and probably you will lose your flight ticket. You cannot get the exit visa until you fulfil all your obligations! And vice versa, you employer has to pay you 2 months salary in case it breaks your contract in the middle of the year.
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Nochasauras



Joined: 16 May 2009
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Location: jubail, KSA

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:
ssn wrote:
So if I do not like the place after going there, will it be a problem if I want to leave after just 1 semester? Will they create any problem with my passport or my exit visa?

Thanks.

Well, it will depend on your contract.
In general, and with direct hire, if you want to leave in the middle of the year without a strong acceptable reason (like medical reason) you have to pay 2 months salary to your employer and probably you will lose your flight ticket. You cannot get the exit visa until you fulfil all your obligations! And vice versa, you employer has to pay you 2 months salary in case it breaks your contract in the middle of the year.


the loophole is that you wait until you get paid, then stop coming in and creating such a problem that they can't help but put you on a plane. but i think that's a scenario that should only be used when you are severely taken advantage of b/c you shouldn't just leave your students hangin'

remember, when coming to KSA for the first time, THIS IS NOT AMERICA! things dont work like america, people dont work/think like americans and you just have to roll with the punches a lot of times. oh and try to get anything important in writing if you can. verbal agreements mean nothing. oh and when i say "america" i mean the greater Western World
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really don't like it, then you can leave in the February break and just go AWOL.
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ummkhadija



Joined: 06 May 2010
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Location: ..The resort city of Saudi Arabia..

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello:

Scot47: "all meat is halal - everywhere in ksa"

Thanks, for the information. The individuals in UAE (@ the Dubai McDonalds) told me that they didn't know if their food was halal, so I just thought that it may be the same in KSA.

Thanks!

UmmKhadija
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean the "dummies" in the UAE, doncha? McD's goes out of its way to profess that its meat is halal. This is the way in any of the non-secular Arab/Muslim states. If not, you'd have the same kind of riots they had in India a few years back when it came out that McD's french fries were cooked in animal fat rather than vegetable oil...

You are guaranteed that your taste buds with remain pristine and holier-than-mine...

NCTBA
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Sheikh N Bake



Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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Location: Dis ting of ours

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lathe of Heaven wrote:
They are changing their course books from "Headway" to "Side by Side". I have never used this new course book

Regards.
TLOH


I used Side by Side for over a year. It's not a bad integrated text series, certainly far better than Headway. It includes skill-set texts and a set of DVDs with an ongoing story and a good bit of singing and dancing, though the main thrust is conversations designed as grammar and vocab supplements.

Texts themselves seem like a blur to me..I don't recall the grammar and vocab as particularly extensive or rigorous.

It doesn't need any extensive curriculum as it's designed sequentially and the texts and DVDs are coordinated. It may need a supplemental text or two outside the series.
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The Lathe of Heaven



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh N Bake wrote:
The Lathe of Heaven wrote:
They are changing their course books from "Headway" to "Side by Side". I have never used this new course book

Regards.
TLOH


I used Side by Side for over a year. It's not a bad integrated text series, certainly far better than Headway. It includes skill-set texts and a set of DVDs with an ongoing story and a good bit of singing and dancing, though the main thrust is conversations designed as grammar and vocab supplements.

Texts themselves seem like a blur to me..I don't recall the grammar and vocab as particularly extensive or rigorous.

It doesn't need any extensive curriculum as it's designed sequentially and the texts and DVDs are coordinated. It may need a supplemental text or two outside the series.


Thanks S & B. That was really informative and kind of you. I didn't expect any response at all.

Regards.
TLOH

ps DVDs ehy. that's interesting.
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