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Sean Og
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 2 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: Petroleum Institute Abu Dhabi |
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Can anyone give me information on the P.I. in Abu Dhabi? I've heard that, while pay and conditions used to be excellent, they have deteriorated severly. Is it true that annual leave is only 30 days and must be taken before the end of the current academic year? Also, I'm told that there's some weird mechanism by which leave entitlement is calculated from the start of the calendar year as a means of cheating teachers out of a large part of their entitlement.
Clarification would be appreciated.
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mishmumkin
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: PI |
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The holiday time is true, though taking it before the end of the academic year? I don't think that's accurate. Friends of mine will be taking their time over the summer. Generally, PI is no longer the sweetest deal in town. Then again, the 'sweetest deal' financially is likely much less pleasant of a work environment than PI. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:27 am Post subject: |
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In 2002, PI salaries for EFL people were pretty much Dh 15,000 across the board, with a furniture allowance of Dh. 44,000. What's the deal now, out of curiosity? |
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Mine's a pint

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: PI |
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mishmumkin wrote: |
The holiday time is true, though taking it before the end of the academic year? I don't think that's accurate. |
I've been told the 30 days is definitely true and this year faculty have been told they have to use it before the new semester starts in August. They cannot carry any leave forward or encash it. I've also heard that three teachers have been told that they are only entitled to 15 days leave as they are leaving at the end of June, despite teaching for a full year, as the new 'official' year started on January 1st, so they have only earned 15 days. This is just another example of the creative accounting being carried out to save money. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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I know. These poor little oil companies like ADNOC need to save every penny. |
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mishmumkin
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 929
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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've been told the 30 days is definitely true and this year faculty have been told they have to use it before the new semester starts in August. They cannot carry any leave forward or encash it. |
Yes, not rolling it forward to next academic year sounds right, but they obviously get to use their leave over the summer. Not many institutions like to allow leave to carry. Personally, I'm tired of academic institutions using holiday accrument. We're teachers-just tell us when to be here, and when we aren't in session. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I'm tired of academic institutions using holiday accrument. We're teachers-just tell us when to be here, and when we aren't in session. |
Good Luck with that!! A battle I waged for much of the 80s and 90s... and it has only become worse. They just can not be weaned from the factory worker mindset. There is just no concept of a professional academic environment. Of the places I worked, only AUC in Egypt understood that concept.
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Sean Og
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 2 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: Petroleum Institute Abu Dhabi |
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Fair comment by Veiled Sentiments. Dr O (MOD edit) may be a good engineer but it sounds as if he knows little about education. Why is it that so many people imagine themselves experts simply because of their own experience as a student? It's as if having had your appendix out qualified you to perform appendectomies.
The other and persistent problem is that some senior managers who find themselves freed from the constraints of Western laws and practices regarding human resources simply become autocrats. It's a problem which has plagued HCT and many other institutions in Arabia for years. Collegiate structures that have taken years to build have been destroyed in short order by blind dictatorships attended by cronyism and sycophancy. The old notion of an academic leader as 'primus inter pares', first among equals, doesn't exist in these situations so consultation is seen as a sign of weakness.[/i] |
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bje
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 527
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Petroleum Institute Abu Dhabi |
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Sean Og wrote: |
The other and persistent problem is that some senior managers who find themselves freed from the constraints of Western laws and practices regarding human resources simply become autocrats. It's a problem which has plagued HCT and many other institutions in Arabia for years. Collegiate structures that have taken years to build have been destroyed in short order by blind dictatorships attended by cronyism and sycophancy. The old notion of an academic leader as 'primus inter pares', first among equals, doesn't exist in these situations so consultation is seen as a sign of weakness.[/i] |
Absolutely. This tendency is very prevalent and disappointing to observe year after year. Some managers and their acolytes may not fully realise the extent to which they degrade themselves whilst behaving like this. |
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Pikgitina
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 420 Location: KSA
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Petroleum Institute Abu Dhabi |
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bje wrote: |
Sean Og wrote: |
The other and persistent problem is that some senior managers who find themselves freed from the constraints of Western laws and practices regarding human resources simply become autocrats. It's a problem which has plagued HCT and many other institutions in Arabia for years. Collegiate structures that have taken years to build have been destroyed in short order by blind dictatorships attended by cronyism and sycophancy. The old notion of an academic leader as 'primus inter pares', first among equals, doesn't exist in these situations so consultation is seen as a sign of weakness.[/i] |
Absolutely. This tendency is very prevalent and disappointing to observe year after year. Some managers and their acolytes may not fully realise the extent to which they degrade themselves whilst behaving like this. |
I can only echo that: absolutely!
Consultation and the freedom of having the option to consult with others - no matter on which level - are non-existent, or at least they often are. There seems to be a kind of fear about the whole thing: as soon as one wants to discuss something, ask about something or talk something through, people start getting defensive, blameshifting (where there was no blame to begin with) or just get totally paranoid. WTF!?
Most of us have the same goal: to get through the semester with as few hiccoughs and as high a pass rate as possible. In other words, do our jobs! For some reason, some in senior management don't get this.
Next year is going to be an interesting one!  |
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Mine's a pint

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject: Petroleum Institute, Abu Dhabi |
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Most of us have the same goal: to get through the semester with as few hiccoughs and as high a pass rate as possible. In other words, do our jobs! For some reason, some in senior management don't get this. |
The latest news is that despite the three EFL teachers managing to do their best and complete the semester and also being told that the 15 days leave allocation was all an HR mistake, it would seem that the person in charge has, rather carelessly, been unable to sign the memo to the HR Department authorizing the change, so they're still not getting the leave pay they're entitle to.
Perhaps it's because the new nominee for the Provost'd position is also a mechanical engineer from Maryland. Obviously, the current person wants to ensure that funds needed in the UAE keep flowing to Maryland instead. |
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eha
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 355 Location: ME
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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'There seems to be a kind of fear about the whole thing: as soon as one wants to discuss something, ask about something or talk something through, people start getting defensive, blameshifting (where there was no blame to begin with) or just get totally paranoid. WTF!?'
It was ever thus. That kind of change takes decades, generations of critical thinking --- and I don't mean the kind of game-show that currently often passes for critical thinking taught as a subject in its own right--- and generations of social training to get teachers to loosen up a bit and respect each other. Hard to blame them, though, when you think about the damage that's been done to the profession over the last thirty years or so. Enough to demoralize the staunchest 'practitioner'--- remember, we used to be called 'professionals'? |
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kiefer

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marianthelibrarian
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Re Mr JH - I take it he's leaving his current post, then? How very interesting.
And I agree he's a good chap. |
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Splitting Hairs
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 99
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Where does he work at the moment? I thought he had left the country. I am looking to get back to the UAE soon. |
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