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What to do in case of Sexual Harrassment
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starteacher



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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get yourself a boyfriend


I was pondering over what this meant, and whilst I first reacted like flyer and Tokyoliz, and sexual harassment is no fun for either sexes, I was thinking more along the lines that maybe the OP can call up some male friends over, and make sure the boss can see that she is seen with other guys, preferably burly ones. Or if the OP has some female friends, young or old, in the small town, whom she can talk openly with and ask them for their help.

Just a suggestion. Maybe the boss is trying to take advantage because you are are "lone easy target" but if you surround yourself with others, then the boss would have second thoughts.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

starteacher wrote:

I was pondering over what this meant, and whilst I first reacted like flyer and Tokyoliz, and sexual harassment is no fun for either sexes, I was thinking more along the lines that maybe the OP can call up some male friends over, and make sure the boss can see that she is seen with other guys, preferably burly ones.

A fake boyfriend often works on normal guys who are a little too persistant. But this boss is clearly not a normal guy. The boyfriend might work but it could also make way for a new line of distressing comments, questions and reactions from him. Think everything from calling her easy (in not so polite terms) to constantly asking questions about their bedroom antics, etc.
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starteacher



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A fake boyfriend often works on normal guys who are a little too persistant. But this boss is clearly not a normal guy. The boyfriend might work but it could also make way for a new line of distressing comments, questions and reactions from him. Think everything from calling her easy (in not so polite terms) to constantly asking questions about their bedroom antics, etc.


My post meaning is that the OP to gather more social contact within the community so that she feels more protected, and in a small community, word would go around if there are any untowards antics made by the boss. It doesn't have to be male friends, elderly ladies could even do the trick.

I'm sure the OP is headstrong enough to rebuff any remarks made by the boss.

It is reduction of the one-on-one encounters, so if you have others around you, the chances will reduce.

The boss is a lonely guy it seems.
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stefanreynolds



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it when people dismiss things in such a fleeting manner, and respond as if they know best. It shows a considerable lack of understanding in my opinion and perhaps an inabilty to do so. Also, Im certain vanity plays a part. Anyway, the foremost part of wisdom is acknowledging one's lack of it.

To the Op: get yourself a boyfriend.
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RollingStone



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue of whether something is a case of sexual harrassment aside, the thing that seems to stand out to me is the degree of isolation you express in your circumstances. Yes, there are certainly various ways to handle the situation. You may contact legal authorities and go that route; you can simply walk away; you can put on the brave face and feel demeaned and grow some bitter callouses. Or you may attempt to manipulate some guy into a "relationship" with you so you can intimidate the boss that taught you some dirty words. The question I see as most relevant is - how do you want to live your life? Do you want to grow as an adult, deal with situations such as this creatively and proactively? Do you want to have independence? As so far only starteacher has suggested, another route to a possible solution is for you to get involved with relationships outside of work. One obvious reason is because emotional attachments make life worthwhile, but another is because you need a support group for situations like this one. These relationships will empower you much more effectively, in the short and especially in the long-term. It seems telling that you are casting a net into an anonymous web forum, thinking complete and anonymous strangers, projecting their own biases into a vaguely described scenario, will be able to provide you with a satisfactory solution, much less tools for a richer life.
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Piri-Piri



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
The boyfriend might work but it could also make way for a new line of distressing comments, questions and reactions from him. Think everything from calling her easy (in not so polite terms) to constantly asking questions about their bedroom antics, etc.


This seems very plausible to me. The OP's isolation - which we could hardly suggest is unique to their situation this board! - is undoubtedly a factor. People who appear isolated become easy targets for manipulative or aggressive people. It actually doesn't matter whether you are or not, just whether you appear to be.

Unnecessary discussion of your private life would be unhelpful in the situation described, but if you are asked what you're doing at the weekend or on holidays (those kinds of questions do come up naturally in working situations after all) then "I'm meeting my friends for a coffee" or "I'm going shopping with a friend" might be a more useful response than "oh, not much... I don't really know many people". Whether it's true or not.

PS. To StefanReynolds - perhaps you should wait until you're in Japan and can relate on a more informed basis to the OPs situation before being so critical of them?


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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My post meaning is that the OP to gather more social contact within the community so that she feels more protected, and in a small community, word would go around if there are any untowards antics made by the boss. It doesn't have to be male friends, elderly ladies could even do the trick.


Bringing a real or fake boyfriend is not a good solution. It confirms in the mind of the harasser or others standing by watching the act that harassment is about sexual relations. The OP in the mind of a guy who plays power, is a sexual object, not a person. She risks confirming she's a sexual object of someone else.

Bringing in the community, as Starteacher suggests, reduces the danger of escalating objectification of the OP. Instead, she'd have safety in numbers.

Compensatory sexual harassment and environmental sexual harassment aren't about whether the victims or perpetrators are single or attached, male or female, old or young, attractive or plain.

Whether she has a boyfriend or not, the OP's relationship status probably doesn't matter to the perpetrator. He's trying to bully and use his power inappropriately.

To the OP, my earnest wish is that you are safe.
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stefanreynolds



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem with lefty-liberals is that they very good at over complicating issues at the expense of neglecting straight forward, effective solutions. Sexual harrassment is not a uniquely Japanese thing, I almost feel embarassed for having to point this out!
It happens across the globe, and having a boyfriend almost always does the trick. and, besides having a boyfriend can be fun. Try it, you might like it! Wink
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Piri-Piri



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stefanreynolds wrote:
the problem with lefty-liberals is that they very good at over complicating issues at the expense of neglecting straight forward, effective solutions... Having a boyfriend almost always does the trick. and, besides having a boyfriend can be fun. Try it, you might like it! Wink


As has been previously stated, the OPs personal relationship situation is completely irrelevant to whether they should have to put up with inappropriate sexual behaviour in the workplace. Good reasons have already been offered as to why bringing a male "competitor" into the situation could inflame it rather than resolve it. There's nothing lefty-liberal about wanting to avoid inflaming a situation that could escalate quickly and potentially pose physical harm to this individual, and it's irresponsible of you to keep repeating these mindless claims and ignoring the input of those far more experienced in dealing with such situations than yourself (ie have lived in Japan for some time and are female, such as TokyoLiz).

Your attitude suggests you are more a part of the problem than a part of the solution. That women should have to depend on the intervention of a sympathetic male in order to avoid unacceptable behaviour is frankly neanderthal. Women are not lamp-posts for men to territorially urinate on, each being fair game until they have been "claimed".
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stefanreynolds wrote:
the problem with lefty-liberals is that they very good at over complicating issues at the expense of neglecting straight forward, effective solutions. Sexual harrassment is not a uniquely Japanese thing, I almost feel embarassed for having to point this out!
It happens across the globe, and having a boyfriend almost always does the trick. and, besides having a boyfriend can be fun. Try it, you might like it! Wink

Are you a girl? I can tell you for a fact that with guys like this, having a boyfriend can make things a whole lot worse. I've had more than my fair share of guys that got a whole lot worse due to me having a boyfriend. Occassionally they have gotten so bad that they weren't responding merely with words anymore. Luckily, I'm physically strong for a girl and a good fighter otherwise quite a few of these encounters where "having a boyfriend almost always does the trick" wouldn't have turned out so well.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stefanreynolds,

The comments you've posted were insensitive to other posters who were facing issues about keeping a lid on the fact that they have same sex partners.

Now, you're giving questionable advice to a person who is facing sexual harassment in the workplace.

To make your advice even more suspect, you've indicated in previous posts that you are not resident in Japan (as has been noticed by others who've posted in this thread).

I'm not going to address your points again. They're irrelevant, uninformed, and unhelpful.

Go away.

Seklarwia, you brought up a good point here about harassers escalating things when you have a man in your life.

I'm almost never bothered in the street, but to my dismay, I have been insulted, and my companion insulted, when walking hand in hand with my dates. One was a Japanese guy a bit older than me, and a jacka$$ said something really nasty to him. Recently, me and my American boyfriend who's blond and blue-eyed has been the target of unpleasant comments and unwanted attention.

But my neighbours, friends and local merchants are happy I have a guy in my life.

Be safe!

It's important not to let a small minority of jerks colour your experience.
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