| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
 Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
It is $220 per document, plus you will have to pay for the return post.
If you need your degree and a police report, you are probably talking about $500 U.S.. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Charvo
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
Posts: 37
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| isabel wrote: |
It is $220 per document, plus you will have to pay for the return post.
If you need your degree and a police report, you are probably talking about $500 U.S.. |
That is still an inexpensive number compared to the apostille.us website I visited. They quoted me $450 for just the criminal background check. That's with me actually sending them the criminal check with a prepaid envelope.
I'll be emailing this agent you referred me to. I already have the diploma. I figure I'll FEDEX him the diploma and a prepaid FEDEX return envelope.
Thanks for your help.
I think you should add that website to the sticky up top. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
btsmrtfan
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 193
Location: GPS Not Working
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Wow! You're going to pay all that money and probably more just for the privilege of teaching in Vietnam?
You must have a lot of money or really, really want to teach in Vietnam for whatever reason.
Not me. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Charvo wrote: |
| isabel wrote: |
It is $220 per document, plus you will have to pay for the return post.
If you need your degree and a police report, you are probably talking about $500 U.S.. |
That is still an inexpensive number compared to the apostille.us website I visited. They quoted me $450 for just the criminal background check. That's with me actually sending them the criminal check with a prepaid envelope.
I'll be emailing this agent you referred me to. I already have the diploma. I figure I'll FEDEX him the diploma and a prepaid FEDEX return envelope.
Thanks for your help.
I think you should add that website to the sticky up top. |
He'll tell you how to do it. You will need to get the letter written (he will send you a sample to copy) and then you need to get it notarized at the embassy there in Vietnam. Then you will send the letter and the diploma to him together. But he'll tell you all of that.
I've been quite impressed with him. He responds to email immediately and is very thorough and professional.
Last edited by isabel on Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:56 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| btsmrtfan wrote: |
Wow! You're going to pay all that money and probably more just for the privilege of teaching in Vietnam?
You must have a lot of money or really, really want to teach in Vietnam for whatever reason.
Not me. |
Yes, well it does cost money to do things right. It is worth it to have your documents squared away. How much does it cost you if you are caught in Vietnam without your proper papers? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
londo
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Posts: 107
Location: District 7
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yep, things cost, doing the right things cost even more...and to think some people thought I was exagerating a couple of months ago when I said a WP is approaching $1k, seems it's going over that for some.
Just make sure you're getting a decent salary....and I think this is going to be a problem for some schools and teachers as well, who's going to spend that kind of money (school or teacher) if they stick around for only 6 months to a year?
Still if it weeds out the back-packers and losers..... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| londo wrote: |
Yep, things cost, doing the right things cost even more...and to think some people thought I was exagerating a couple of months ago when I said a WP is approaching $1k, seems it's going over that for some.
Just make sure you're getting a decent salary....and I think this is going to be a problem for some schools and teachers as well, who's going to spend that kind of money (school or teacher) if they stick around for only 6 months to a year?
Still if it weeds out the back-packers and losers..... |
m
Yes, it is an initial investment that you would only make if you actually intended to stay a while and not just pass through. I am hoping that the salaries will have to improve to attract those who can and will go through the process and will have the documents to pass the muster.
I have worked with too many people who (sometimes proudly) have fake documents, and some others who could never get a police clearance. Why does this matter? Because it gives us all a black eye, first of all. Second, because we have to spend time and energy un-teaching the crap they have been taught (I had one "colleague" who taught "ain't" and the related double negatives intentionally!). Finally, they are usually the ones who make unnecessary midnight runs (some are necessary) and leave us to clean up their messes.
Having seen the crap I have seen, I can't blame countries for setting high barriers to entry. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
btsmrtfan
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 193
Location: GPS Not Working
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
| londo wrote: |
Yep, things cost, doing the right things cost even more...and to think some people thought I was exagerating a couple of months ago when I said a WP is approaching $1k, seems it's going over that for some.
Just make sure you're getting a decent salary....and I think this is going to be a problem for some schools and teachers as well, who's going to spend that kind of money (school or teacher) if they stick around for only 6 months to a year?
Still if it weeds out the back-packers and losers..... |
Is it possible in your world not to be a loser or backpacker and still object to paying that kind of money? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
londo
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Posts: 107
Location: District 7
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Everyone objects to paying what we perceive to be too much, it is our decision to do so or not, no point whining about it, the backpackers and losers aren't even going to ask themselves the question........addios |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
londo
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Posts: 107
Location: District 7
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
the despicable people who traffic in Vietnamese and others to our countries often ask 10 times more than $1k, all for five bucks an hour as an illegal immigrant, and we have to whine about $1,000 to be legally employed, earning-$75,000 -$100,000 or more over a three year contract?
Do the Vietnamese owe us something? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:28 am Post subject: |
|
|
| londo wrote: |
the despicable people who traffic in Vietnamese and others to our countries often ask 10 times more than $1k, all for five bucks an hour as an illegal immigrant, and we have to whine about $1,000 to be legally employed, earning-$75,000 -$100,000 or more over a three year contract?
Do the Vietnamese owe us something? |
Excellent point. I find that often those who rail against the rules for them to work abroad are the same who rail against immigrants' rights in their home countries.
I think the rules, given some of the things that go on in ESL, are legitimate. I only wish they did a more thorough job of checking people out. I can think of a number of "colleagues" of mine who should never have been hired. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
btsmrtfan
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 193
Location: GPS Not Working
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
Ah, now we're into "whining" and "railing" all because we dare to object and question paying such fees when you can work in other countries without such costs.
Somehow or other, in a stretch that defies all plausible explanation, this also makes us ipso facto opponents of immigrant rights in our home nation.
Are you both using the same ouija board?
If you are, you may not want to wait until the scheduled date of its next six month check before getting it serviced.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| btsmrtfan wrote: |
Ah, now we're into "whining" and "railing" all because we dare to object and question paying such fees when you can work in other countries without such costs.
Somehow or other, in a stretch that defies all plausible explanation, this also makes us ipso facto opponents of immigrant rights in our home nation.
Are you both using the same ouija board?
If you are, you may not want to wait until the scheduled date of its next six month check before getting it serviced. :lol: |
I had to have similar things done for Korea and for the Middle East. Go work in the other countries if you like. Do you have any idea what a green card visa costs in the US? And how long you have to wait, and the necessary documentation?
I didn't say all were opposed to immigration in their home countries, but I have spent a lot of time abroad, and there are some generalizations that can be made about expats.
You can "object" as much and however you want, but in the end, it is not your country, and if you want to there, you have to play by their rules.
Being an illegal in Vietnam seems to be unwise these days. But I suppose it is your choice if you wish to do that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
btsmrtfan
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 193
Location: GPS Not Working
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| isabel wrote: |
| btsmrtfan wrote: |
Ah, now we're into "whining" and "railing" all because we dare to object and question paying such fees when you can work in other countries without such costs.
Somehow or other, in a stretch that defies all plausible explanation, this also makes us ipso facto opponents of immigrant rights in our home nation.
Are you both using the same ouija board?
If you are, you may not want to wait until the scheduled date of its next six month check before getting it serviced. |
I had to have similar things done for Korea and for the Middle East. Go work in the other countries if you like. Do you have any idea what a green card visa costs in the US? And how long you have to wait, and the necessary documentation?
I didn't say all were opposed to immigration in their home countries, but I have spent a lot of time abroad, and there are some generalizations that can be made about expats.
You can "object" as much and however you want, but in the end, it is not your country, and if you want to there, you have to play by their rules.
Being an illegal in Vietnam seems to be unwise these days. But I suppose it is your choice if you wish to do that. |
Exactly what part of my initial comment on this thread leads you to believe that I "want to be there" or teach in Vietnam legally or illegally?
| btsmrtfan wrote: |
Wow! You're going to pay all that money and probably more just for the privilege of teaching in Vietnam?
You must have a lot of money or really, really want to teach in Vietnam for whatever reason.
Not me. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isabel
Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Posts: 510
Location: God's green earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ummmmm, well, you were posting on the Vietnam job discussion forum.
You have 9 posts, mostly kvetching about the low pay in Thailand and the high cost of entry to Vietnam. My ouija board says that you are looking for work that pays well and is easy to get in SE Asia. I just got it back from the shop- so maybe now it is more accurate.
Oh, yeah, and you joined Dave's 4 days ago. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
