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Motorbike sales or LT rentals in HCMC
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chim35



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met her online, Londo Smile

We dated for about 5 months, after numerous Yahoo chats over a period of a year. Two weeks after I moved to the Delta to be nearer to her, she said that we should get married. She asked me to buy her a new scooter, even though she had a fine one already. She also told me that I should buy land, because she knew a parcel of land that was a great deal. But foreigners can't buy land, can they? So I guess her plan was that I buy it in her name.

I was always bringing her stuff like many kilos of brown rice and brown sesame and fruits to try to improve her and her daughter's nutrition. Viets don't seem to know anything about nutrition. Those to me were meaningful gifts that showed real caring, unlike a new motorbike and land.

Londo, the gifts you describe are certainly reasonable, and I wouldn't have a problem with them. But I would have a problem with a girl demanding that I buy motorbikes for all her brothers and sisters, in addition to the regular Tet payments to them.

Another girl I met online asked me if I could buy a $100,000 house in Danang for her family. This was while we were just chatting on Yahoo, never having met. I never went out there to meet her. She was one of the ones with 8 siblings. Seems her parents kept having girls and kept trying for a boy.

Anyway, I never got the feeling that the delta girl really loved me. I got the feeling that she just wanted someone to take care of her. She was divorced with a daughter. And I also had other issues with her. Like, she would not listen to my advice but lie to me and say that she did stuff I advised when she really didn't. And I wondered if she was really hot enough to keep my eyes from straying.

Ultimately I decided to buy her a computer as a goodbye present, because I felt guilty, having said ILY a few times, in addition to having sent her many Yahoo Messenger heart and kiss smilies. Be careful with those things! They can get you in a lot of trouble Smile
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Bold As Love



Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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Location: HCMC, Vietnam

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to clarify that by " ... LT Rentals" in the thread title was not a reference to human beings (wives and girlfriends), but rather motorbikes. But honestly the thread has been hijacked into more interesting terrain.

After only a few weeks in country, I have already met a VN lady who I find extremely interesting and marriage-worthy. After managing to stay single for four years in Bangkok, I am quite surprised to find myself ready to make the leap of faith again. Think we'll give things the recommended six-month waiting period, before I pop the question.
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jb0072009



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Location: Saigon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

londo wrote:

I agree, be careful before you get married, but let's not treat them like cheap belongings once we get married, they deserve more.

True that you should respect the wife after you are married and true that if you have the money you should be expected to buy her reasonable things. The problems arise if they DEMAND expensive things (like cars, land, house etc). This is sort of the same problem even in the west. Money, the root of all evil. As I said earlier, the attitude of a Viet wife should be the same as a western wife, they should be your partner, give and take on both sides.

Vietnam is technically a community property country when it comes to divorce (meaning 50-50 split). However if you have bought things that in your wifes name guess what, you loose them in a divorce. Two men I know learned this the hard way. That is why you need to be careful about motorbikes, land etc that you can not legally buy in your name (although an article in yesterdays newspaper said a new law allows foreigners to now buy land).

Londo sounds like you are lucky to have in laws from such a nice place. Mine live in the delta next to a river and never bring me anything when they come stay here, only expect me to give them things. Which is why I do not go visit them often.
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chim35



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jb0072009 wrote:

Vietnam is technically a community property country when it comes to divorce (meaning 50-50 split). However if you have bought things that in your wifes name guess what, you loose them in a divorce. Two men I know learned this the hard way. That is why you need to be careful about motorbikes, land etc that you can not legally buy in your name (although an article in yesterdays newspaper said a new law allows foreigners to now buy land).


JB, do you know if that means a 50-50 split only of assets and money you have acquired since the marriage, or of all the assets you have that you accumulated before the marriage as well? I guess they don't have pre-nups in VN.

What if you take her to Thailand and marry her there? Still subject to VN divorce law? Or what if you take her to live in Thailand? I wonder if that means you could divorce her there, and maybe the law would be more favorable.

I still think maybe the best idea is to find a girl who doesn't have a family! Surely there must be a few... maybe they all perished in a plane crash or something... Rolling Eyes

I know a VN girl here who married an American man and they had a baby and then he walked out on her to go live with another girl in Nha Trang. He refused to pay support for the baby. The girl was trying to make him take a DNA test or something, so I guess he was denying that he was the father. A real creep, apparently.

But if they can't make a man pay support for his child, one wonders how effectively the govt can enforce community property 50-50 laws. Perhaps Londo is right and it's done informally with the family just taking stuff out of the house.
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jb0072009



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I know one American who got a divorce here. He went to court (that is the law) before a judge. You both explain to the judge your reasons. The judge can pretty much do anything they want here. In this case the woman had a boyfriend and the husband had proof. So the judge sided with the foreigner. They had no kids and he had not bought anything so it was an easy divorce. Am not sure of the exact 50-50 laws but if it is like elsewhere then it only applies to things aquired during your marriage. If you marry here and divorce elsewhere then of course the laws of that country apply, not Vietnams. Yes londo is correct as well that they will take everything after all TIV
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Oh My God



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first motorbike I got was Chinese and new. The real problem is that it was always breaking down and the warranty was pretty short. The mechanics would always go back with cheap parts and soon I'd be replacing those same parts again. Finally I got smart, I'd always insist on ONLY Japanese parts and started accessorizing it which changed the attitude of the mechanic. They started offering things that would improve performance and endurance. True, I soon had a MB that was half Japanese but it was a MUCH cheaper alternative than buying a Honda and became a very reliable MB.

Later as my finances increased, I bought a Honda and now have almost zero defaults.

I first got my wife a Chinese Suzuki second hand, she's such a hazardous driver I didn't trust her on anything better. She just can't understand investing in more expensive parts so I'd have to take it to the mechanic myself to get things improved as she'd only put the cheapest of everything back on. After I got the Honda, I offered to buy her one but she chose my new and improved Chinese MB instead. Just recently, I got her a Yamaha Nuovo of her choosing, she thinks this a sexy MB.

Her mother and the family inherited the 2 Chinese half Japanese MB's, I throw a little money around at Tet Holidays, and have remodeled my mother-in-law's existing house adding a kitchen and an indoor bathroom. Amazingly, this sparked my brother-in-laws into following suit virtually doubling the buying power and reducing my costs by half. She went from living in a dump to being envied by the entire countryside community.

My wife is no walk in the park, even by VN standards - she's quite demanding and difficult. But from the very beginning, I wouldn't agree to "be the bank" in any way, shape, or form.

I've helped and even given money to "my" family because I've chosen to do so NOT because it was expected.
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londo



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much what happened to us. Nowadays with a family we have bought a car through the company...not as expensive as some think, a Chevy Captiva made in VN costs 'bout the same as in Europe and I wouldn't EVER take babies on MBs even if my wife has tried to do it a couple of times, sod it, you don't winge about the money when the nipper's life is at stake.

As for bikes...jeez..Vietnamese women are truly kamikaze riders, my wife has had so many accidents it's becoming boring, then she wanted a Vespa...put foot down and got her a SYM copy instead. It's so badly made I wouldn't trust it to the supermarket..but she likes it.

I still have my old Nuovo, great bike, strong, nippy and fun to pimp.

Two years ago I built a bathroom for the in-laws but that was because I was fed up with balancing on a pole at 2 o'clock in the morning to crap in a box suspended over some very big catfish.

Bet my wife is even more a handfull than yours but if you love 'em and respect them and theirs you can get along just fine....and they are really supportive even offering their meagre savings when we were opening the company, bless em.

Not every story goes bad.
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