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does your salary increase as you teach longer in china?

 
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chinesearmy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: does your salary increase as you teach longer in china? Reply with quote

if you have more experience, do schools pay you more?
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Zero



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. And they start respecting you a lot more, too. The whole "trying to cheat you" thing goes away.

Also:

-Spit disappears from the streets.
-People stop having their kids defecate everywhere.
-The people you date start having excellent dental hygiene and no ulterior motives.

It's really nice.
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Gilka



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pay has increased each year. I imagine I'm about to hit a ceiling, though, unless I increase/update my qualifications.
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RonHex



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

many school will offer you a small increase between 500-1500rmb for the second contract(many.. not all) you may also get a signing bonus or be paid for the summer break.. if you switch jobs/cities it could go either way... the more experience/connections you have will increase ur chances of landing a higher paying job.
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean "you" as in "you all" or as in "you - individual experiences"?

Personally, as long as I stay at my school and sign a new contract each year, I get a 5% salary increase each year. 5% of my previous contract amount, so my salary increases exponentially. The longer one stays at a good job, then I suspect the higher one's salary will increase.
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mat chen



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kev I love you. When looking at salaries ten years ago I saw more money. I am at a city where I met my wife at 5 years ago and have run into teachers who are doing my job and they are making 1,000 less a month and you talk of 5% increases. Wow. Inflation is running almost 50% higher for food and you talk of 5% raises in pay.
This is shocking because as a government employee you are entilted to a 15% increase in salary. Kev you better get back to your leaders and get a clarification.
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I work for a private school so not sure if I'm truly and technically a government employee and could push for a 15% rate increase. Also, it's a 5% increase per month, mind you, on an already pretty substantial salary (well, substantial when I read about the 4,000-6,000 numbers bandied about here). I'm not noticing that 50% inflation. I buy generally the same amount of groceries every week or two for generally the same amount of money. Taxi rates are the same as they were 5 years ago, same with buses. I don't buy clothes here due to my large size and my most expensive purchases are usually Nike shoes (although I got a sweet deal off a clearance shelf - - 296 rmb, marked down from 700-something, for a pair of Air Nike shoes and the width was okay for my feet!), western foods, either in restaurants or the imported food aisle at my local store, and traveling, locally or long distance. With the school reimbursing me for a huge chunk of air travel, medicines, paying for my apartment and utilities in full, giving me monthly and semester-ly bonuses, free rides to and airport pickups, helping me move into my new apartment . . . and the host of other money-consuming things they do for me every year, I am hardly going to complain about my 5% increase. It's quite suitable for me.
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Adeem



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good institutions increase salaries a bit. My company does it's best to value teachers' experience and encourage them to stay by these kinds of bonuses and salary increases, but in the end it is never going to be a massive improvement. Even Kev's fabled 5% increases are only worth around 750-800 a month. It could be worse, but it is hardly a deal breaker.

With regard my perception of the original intent of the OP, when getting a job, I have never seen greater experience net a significantly larger salary than other co-workers, and in purely Chinese run institutions, I cannot see this happening.

If you have more experience, use that to get you into a better job with a higher base salary. There is the payoff you seek for your years of hard work!

Eventually, long experience will make the difference if you are applying to the right people.
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SnoopBot



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonHex wrote:
many school will offer you a small increase between 500-1500rmb for the second contract(many.. not all) you may also get a signing bonus or be paid for the summer break.. if you switch jobs/cities it could go either way... the more experience/connections you have will increase ur chances of landing a higher paying job.


This is the most typical scenario. If you change positions you often end up at the bottom pile, unless you were offered a higher salary upon hiring.

Chinese teachers generally get pay raises and other perks each year of employment. Don't believe the stories that the Chinese teachers earn 1000 RMB a month so you should feel happy with 3000 a month RMB.

This might be true in back-water areas, however in places like Beijing, teacher salaries are on par with FT salaries and in many cases exceed them.

(My wife was a Chinese teacher, I have first-hand experience with this. Ask yourself this simple question: "How can someone (CT's) afford a nice new car with a low reported salary?"

China is not the place to make big $ being a FT, to survive in the long term you must find a side-business, be retired or have other means of income.
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