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dmacdougall



Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 21
Location: Canada to Chile

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:13 am    Post subject: Vietnam here I come... Reply with quote

Hey folks I will be arriving in Ho Chi Minh in one week. Just a quick background before I ask some questions. I am a single, 34 year old Canadian guy, with 5 years teaching experience, a BBA and a TESL Cert.

Upon arriving I will undoubtedly be crashing in District 1, and I am wondering what districts should I consider hanging my hat. As far as living goes my criteria is as follows: an inexpensive, friendly but quiet neighborhood that has a good mix of locals to expats. That also is a short walking distance from the majority of schools (that I will be applying to); but also walking distance to some resturants with good food, and a bit of nightlife. Don't get me wrong, when I say nightlife I am not talking rip roaring. A stool in a pub or bar with some good music, and good people is my speed.

After that, my questions concerns obtaining a cellphone. I will likely lug my unblocked cell from Peru along. Can I get that hooked up by buying a SIM and or will I have to get a new pre-paid one. And how difficult are they to get? Please note, I ask becaues here in Korea it is not easy.

Last but not least, are job prospects. In my 5 years I have taught in Chile, Peru and now Korea. In Chile and Peru, I taught Business English. While here in Korea I have taught kinder and up. For my Vietnam experience, I would like to refocus my efforts on teaching adults, with maybe a few kids classes for the fun of it. My end goal would be to do my DELTA.

Well that is about it. Thanks in advance for you help, I look forward to your advice. And if I can offer any on South America or Korea please don't hesitate to ask. See you soon.

D.
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CThomas



Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 380
Location: HCMC, Vietnam

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Vietnam here I come... Reply with quote

dmacdougall wrote:
Hey folks I will be arriving in Ho Chi Minh in one week. Just a quick background before I ask some questions. I am a single, 34 year old Canadian guy, with 5 years teaching experience, a BBA and a TESL Cert.

Upon arriving I will undoubtedly be crashing in District 1, and I am wondering what districts should I consider hanging my hat. As far as living goes my criteria is as follows: an inexpensive, friendly but quiet neighborhood that has a good mix of locals to expats. That also is a short walking distance from the majority of schools (that I will be applying to); but also walking distance to some resturants with good food, and a bit of nightlife. Don't get me wrong, when I say nightlife I am not talking rip roaring. A stool in a pub or bar with some good music, and good people is my speed.

After that, my questions concerns obtaining a cellphone. I will likely lug my unblocked cell from Peru along. Can I get that hooked up by buying a SIM and or will I have to get a new pre-paid one. And how difficult are they to get? Please note, I ask becaues here in Korea it is not easy.

Last but not least, are job prospects. In my 5 years I have taught in Chile, Peru and now Korea. In Chile and Peru, I taught Business English. While here in Korea I have taught kinder and up. For my Vietnam experience, I would like to refocus my efforts on teaching adults, with maybe a few kids classes for the fun of it. My end goal would be to do my DELTA.

Well that is about it. Thanks in advance for you help, I look forward to your advice. And if I can offer any on South America or Korea please don't hesitate to ask. See you soon.

D.


You can call 0938827707 and ask for Jon for a serviced room in D1 in a quiet neighborhood by Bui Vien for about $300/mo, month to month, 1 mo deposit. This way you can avoid paying the 14/day for a hotel you'd spend otherwise. You can then use that time to find your own shang-ri-la. That's different for everybody, you know. People will say you can get digs cheaper and they're right, but you need time to figure it all out. If anyone says "yea, well, you can do it cheaper", get specifics. I gave you specifics, not opinion.

There's really not much "short walking distance." Even in Q1 the schools are dispersed enough that you'll need to ride. It's hot, sunny, or raining. The weather is not mild. You will not want to walk, man. Speaking as a hard-core walker, this is, in the final analysis, the equator.

Use a Xe Om or rent a bike until you can buy one. About 20 to 30k each way Xe Om, 150k/hr, or 800k/month for a newish Wave, no license required. Old ladies ride motorbikes here. The traffic is crazy but, seriously, old ladies and young girls ride motorbikes here. Just sayin.

I imagine that, beyond just going and applying to RMIT, ILA and Apollo (the big ones), you'll get pings for interviews with your credentials from other schools.

If you have a sim card you're gold. Buy a sim card on Bui Vien for here and charge it up: I spend 40k/mo VND texting to friends/gf and making odd/rare calls.

For your first few nights, just go to Bui Vien and chill a bit, man. With your background, you'll get the hang of it soon.

Welcome to Hotel California. All of this is imho after 7 mos here.

Btw, if you're going to do your Delta, you need to be an employee of the schools that offer it; you can't get a Delta here otherwise.
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HendrikBruwer



Joined: 03 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hold your excitement bro. once you come here you'll see its no paradise. go back where you came from.
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CThomas



Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 380
Location: HCMC, Vietnam

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HendrikBruwer wrote:
hold your excitement bro. once you come here you'll see its no paradise. go back where you came from.


Rolling Eyes
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londo



Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Posts: 107
Location: District 7

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes indeed, and I thought I was having a bad day.
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snollygoster



Joined: 04 Jun 2009
Posts: 478

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:53 pm    Post subject: Newbie Reply with quote

Been here since dinosaurs were eggs- CThomas is on the money. Follow CTs advice.
Phones and sim cards- easy as pie- just walk into any one of the million places with Mobi etc sign and get one- They ask for nothing but money, although they are SUPPOSED to get some ID.
Walk? Dont do it- Even Viets take a taxi to go to the WC.
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dmacdougall



Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 21
Location: Canada to Chile

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the encouraging advice. Never thought about the heat and the walking bit. I am a big walker too. While in SA I hauled a 50 lb pack over a big stretch of the Andes; it was hot as hell there, but from your posts, I suspect it doesn't compare. I wonder how well I will handle that?

Please note, there are not any illusions of finding paradise. And lets face it; even if I did, Korea hasn't set the bar very high in the paradise department. Everywhere has its flaws; and although frustrating, I can roll with most punches.

I am liking the motorbike advice; and will most certainly be buying a bike as soon as I get my bearings. I am especially digging the ads for classic bikes on Craig's list. Are they a good idea?

And are there rental agencies that don't hold your passport? Not really into that; I got my drivers license kept by a Thai rental agency. Foolishly, I rented a bike that had previous damage on its fairing. When I returned the bike, the agency told me I had to pay for the damages. I chose to donate my drivers license instead.

Well, amigos. Thanks again for the advice. I appreciate it. If I can compensate anyone with a pint, just message me. Like I said I arrive on the 26th.

Bye for now

D.
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chim35



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must disagree about the heat and walking. It's not that hot in rainy season, and my body seems to have adjusted to the heat and I'm only uncomfortable in the few weeks at the peak of the hot season. I walk very long distances all the time, even 4 or 5 km, because I don't wanna ride a motorbike. If you have good shoes it's quite doable. The drawback is that it takes a long time because of the crowded sidewalks and the delays trying to cross the streets.

You can also take the bus during the daytime. Only 3,000 dong and there's an extensive bus route. The big problem is that the buses mostly stop running around 6 or 7 o'clock. This is crazy in a city that has the transportation problems that HCMC has, but that's the reality. So if you're traveling at night, you're stuck -- you must either walk or take a taxi, which I won't do unless it's an emergency, because the taxis have rigged meters and many if not most of them will cheat you, both with their meters and by taking the scenic route to your destination.

I anticipate that some here will say, "take Mai Linh and Vinasun taxis, they are honest" but I am not so sure about that. I saw a Vinasun taxi cheat someone once by taking the scenic route. Witnessed the argument afterward.

I am still exploring the possibility of getting a bicycle if I can find or make a comfortable seat.
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deadlift



Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Posts: 267

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinasun and Mailinh are both generally good, in my opinion. In my three months here I've been taken on the scenic route by Vinasun only once (I stopped the cab when we passed by the crucial one way road and got out without paying).

In hindsight, I should have done what a friend of mine recently did: stay in the cab, call their dispatch centre, and complain. Tell them where you want to go, and discuss how much you'll pay when you get there.

Also, using Vietnamese when you state your destination shows the driver that you're not a tourist, and indicates that you may just know where you're going.
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BrentBlack



Joined: 11 Apr 2010
Posts: 96
Location: Quan 3, Saigon

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here I come as well! I will be arriving about October 1st. The CELTA interview with ILA went really great and the dude basically told me I am in ithout actually saying so. I am excited for the challenge and the unique experience that is about to unfold!
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dmacdougall



Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 21
Location: Canada to Chile

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the world over, taxi guys are crooks. They are the dentists and mechanics of the unskilled labour world. I avoid them like the plague. And when I do use them, I am always on guard.

In Peru you have to negotiate your taxi fare before you get in; and depending on the time of night and the taxi you choose, there is a possibility that you could be gassed and wake up naked in another part of town. It happened to a friend of mine, but he got on a bus instead of a taxi.

I am sure Viet Nam isn't that bad. But with the exception of leaving the airport, I won't be taking a taxi any where. Right now I have less than 5 days until I am there. I can't wait.

D.
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