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[veiledsentiments]

The latest info here is 2009... the just ending academic year. Don't expect anything to have much improved in that small amount of time. That would be a record never achieved that I know of... sadly.

Even if they had hired all new management and/or owners, they wouldn't have any track record yet to gamble on...

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[bedwiya]

It's still bad - info still valid. Sadly, once schools here in Kuwait go bad they seldom can/desire to turn things around. Really bad if they start out poorly and don't attempt to improve. If they don't infuse the school with cash in the beginning for books, techonology, etc. they most likely never will. Things go downhill and deteriorate here quickly - long term planning unheard of.

[Toni_z]

Hi, I have updated info, my sister still works at ABS.

let me give you a bit on the school's background.

It opened in 2006, so it had bit of a rough start with few teachers who expected that it would be easy in a new school. So they got a tough administration which required nothing but the best to give the school a good reputation.

For the first 2 years ABS had a huge turn over in staff and students since they were excepting the best of both. They sacked those who weren�t preforming on both sides.

They don�t accept special needs students since they don�t have a program for them.

Their employment webpage is very detailed and clear about the salary, benefits, housing and deposits, which means they are honest in telling you all what you�re expecting.

Starting 2009 things were starting to settle down and things are much better for all, the number of students grew from 450 to 900 and the overseas faculty up to 40.

Living cost in Kuwait is much cheaper than Dubai, Qatar or Bahrain so a salary of 710KD + Housing is good (they provide apartments - rents are about 220KD)

My sister started with them in 2007 and she is happy with her job, if you want to talk to her pm me and I would be more than happy to send you her e-mail.

Best of luck in choosing a school you like!

[veiledsentiments]

[Starfell]

710 kd is a terrible salary for Kuwait. Most western qualified and nationality holding teachers command a starting salary of at least 850 kd now.

ABS also, I believe but correct me if I'm wrong, expects teachers to work some Saturdays without overtime.

[bje]

[Toni_z]

No one pays more than 720KD for a fresh graduate teacher. I believe 720KD + Housing is very good for a starter, thats what ABS pays for freshers.

My sister�s salary is far more than that, it always depends on experience.

A teacher with more than 10 years of experience gets no less than a 1000kd + housing.

GCC countries used to pay more, but now that there are quite a number of overseas teachers in the gulf the competition is higher and the pay scale has dropped a bit.

Furthermore, no one work on Saturday except the Admin staff from 9-12, teachers are not required to come.

[Latcher81]

Hi, I'm new to Dave�s cafe, and I hope that you could help me as well.
I came to Kuwait last year, ABS offered me 750KD but my husband works at Fahaheel so I had to turn the job down and took a Job at the Future Bilingual School for 660KD.
I met few teachers who work at ABS and they seem happy with what they have. The type of work they are doing is similar to here, but it seems they have brighter students since there isn�t much bedoon students and more international students. I started applying to schools closer to Kuwait city since I have a car now. I did few interviews and am waiting for replies from Bayan, Dasman, Canadian Bilingual and American Bilingual. I will let you know the offers I get.

What I need is info about CBS and Dasman, I didn�t get a positive feedback from the teachers who work there.

[Toni_z]

Hi latcher81,

Did you get any offers?

The schools you asked are good schools except for the Canadian bilingual, i haven't heard anything good about it. Both teachers and parents complain tremendously on the way that school is being run. I recommend not to consider any offer from them.

Dasman is not bad, but sometimes they have some rules made from out of the blue which causes a great deal of problems for teachers. They have a new scrooge director who cuts expenses left and right.

Bayan is one of the best.

ABS is rising fast and is one of the best now. They are the leader when it comes to technology integration.

Best of luck!