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JeffKenna



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Short term contracts Reply with quote

This subject has probably been covered hundreds of times before, but I couldn't find anything relatively new. My current situation means I will have to wait until Sept 2011 to start a PGCE course, so I'm looking to go abroad up until then. I've just returned from South Korea for a year, so I have a decent amount of experience, but I don't have any TEFL qualifications.

Ideally I would like to go away after the new year, but I'm struggling to think of anywhere offering short term contracts (4-6 months). Does anyone have any suggestions?? I'm from England aswell, so Europe wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short-term contracts are rare in Europe, though you might find something Jan - June in the case some teacher somewhere doesn't return after the winter holidays.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you open to Asia? China often has semester contracts. AS does Westgate in Japan.
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JeffKenna



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm open to anywhere to be honest. Although working in Asia would be perfect as I plan to travel all over there next year (starting in China!). Working for a while beforehand while I'm there would be amazing!

Thanks for the PM too.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PGCE? I do not know the British system, but is this the equivalent of a bachelor's degree? If you don't have the degree or equivalent, don't bother with Westgate Corporation, because you wouldn't be eligible for a work visa, let alone the job.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
PGCE? I do not know the British system, but is this the equivalent of a bachelor's degree? If you don't have the degree or equivalent, don't bother with Westgate Corporation, because you wouldn't be eligible for a work visa, let alone the job.


It's a step above. Kind of middle ground between a BA and MA. Can be one or two semesters.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
PGCE? I do not know the British system, but is this the equivalent of a bachelor's degree? If you don't have the degree or equivalent, don't bother with Westgate Corporation, because you wouldn't be eligible for a work visa, let alone the job.


Post Graduate Certificate in Education.

The same as a north American going back to uni to get a B.Ed AFTER completion of their first degree.

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
Glenski wrote:
PGCE? I do not know the British system, but is this the equivalent of a bachelor's degree? If you don't have the degree or equivalent, don't bother with Westgate Corporation, because you wouldn't be eligible for a work visa, let alone the job.


Post Graduate Certificate in Education.

The same as a north American going back to uni to get a B.Ed AFTER completion of their first degree.

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Can you get a B.Ed in the US in a year?
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somewhere_else



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think in the U.S. it's not called a B.ed. if it's a year long course. It is possible to take post graduate courses that will give you the coursework you need to apply for certification in your home state, but it's just a certificate program. The number of credits required varies from 21 to 36 (or more) credit hours so it may take longer than a year to complete especially with the full time student teaching component. The only people I know that have Bachelor's degrees in education from the U.S. are people who focused on education for their undergraduate degrees.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="tttompatz"]

The same as a north American going back to uni to get a B.Ed AFTER completion of their first degree.
[/quote

A B.ed. is a first degree in the US system.
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FrenchLieutenant'sWoman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Glenski wrote:
PGCE? I do not know the British system, but is this the equivalent of a bachelor's degree? If you don't have the degree or equivalent, don't bother with Westgate Corporation, because you wouldn't be eligible for a work visa, let alone the job.


It's a step above. Kind of middle ground between a BA and MA. Can be one or two semesters.


A PGCE is a year long course (2 full semesters) which can be upgraded to an MA or MEd on completion of a Masters level theis.

It's basically a mix of academic and vocational teacher training which requires you to have a first degree and you get QTS at the end of it, unlike a BEd which gives you your degree and QTS.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Isla Guapa"]
tttompatz wrote:


The same as a north American going back to uni to get a B.Ed AFTER completion of their first degree.
[/quote

A B.ed. is a first degree in the US system.


Yes, but for those who did not do their B.Ed first, you can add post grad components to acquire a B.Ed as a 2nd degree (typically takes 3 trimesters or 4 semesters depending on the university you attend).

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somewhere_else



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think maybe the poster was just trying to point out that in the US system a B.ed. is usually a first degree but not a second degree. In the US if your bachelor's isn't in education you can either go into a program that allows you to take courses needed for teacher certification but leads to no degree, or you can go into a program that allows you to take certification courses along with graduate level education courses and leads to an MA. I don't know of any programs in the US that will award a B.ed. for a few semesters of post graduate coursework. I don't think there is really a difference between the second degree B.ed. and a certification program in the US other than the title of the degree.
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