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lennon146

Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 55 Location: Latin America
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: How tough is the DELTA? |
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Hi,
I'm a teacher with a BA, TEFL and 5 years' experience overseas, who is now thinking about taking his DELTA either at home or whilst working abroad. It just seems like the next logical step in my career and would hopefully open the door to better and more lucrative positions, such as DOS. I've heard a few people say that the DELTA is incredibly hard work - not to mention that it's expensive and can take nearly a year to complete, part-time. I was wondering if anybody who has taken the DELTA could offer their opinion as to whether it was worth it, how they found the course, and if it benefited their teaching career afterwards.
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dear lennon146
The DELTA is hard work, no doubt, but no harder than anything else you would have done so far. There is nothing academically beyond anyone who has completed a BA.
The only trick that really must be got right from the beginning is your pacing. Fall behind the course and then it becomes much harder. Complete assignments on time, and it should be straightforward enough. I did the part-time course, over a year, and that entailed the added challenge of holding down a full-time job at the same time. However, again, it can be done so long as you are disciplined enough to get the graft done early on and keep the DELTA as priority number one. The new modular version of the DELTA is easier to manage, so I've heard.
It is the next logical step for you, it seems to me. It will open up other positions like DOS posts. (However, it really does not include any DOS training per se.) The main benefit is that it makes you a much stronger, more aware teacher. You will be much more creative in lesson planning. Planning should be much easier and faster too. Course planning, syllabus design, test design etc. are all on the course. Observation feedback is probably the biggest tangible benefit, though. For me, this was where I really saw the immediate practical value of the course.
It is unquestionably worth it. Never heard anyone who completed it say otherwise.
Go for it, and good luck! |
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spanglish
Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 742 Location: working on that
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Some excellent info. I have many of the same questions so it's much appreciated. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:52 am Post subject: |
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One thing that put me off were the additional fees. Don't forget that you need a tutor, so you'll have to pay someone in country for their time. |
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TwinCentre
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Mokotow
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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I have the DELTA, got it quite a few years ago, and I can honestly say that I hesitate to claim that it was actually worth it.
I think the DELTA is all part and parcel of the great TEFL industry, it is a product that people profit from financially...it is a cash cow.
Do people really profit from it educationally? Well in my case I am not convinced it made me a better teacher. I was good beforehand. The PGCE did far more, although I took that before I started TEFL.
Think about the DELTA, it doesn't get you better pay as a teacher really, but if you really want to be a DOS then I guess you'll have to do it. |
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AdrianG4
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 160 Location: Harbin, China
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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What is a DOS ? |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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DOS, Director of Studies.
I'd like to do the DELTA; but all the people I've heard that have took it have struggled, despite being long time teachers. I think I might agree with TwinCentre, it'�s all about the money. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Once...we sent in seven good men after a DELTA...
...only three made it back alive.
NCTBA |
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Mrs McClusky
Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 133
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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AdrianG4 wrote: |
What is a DOS ? |
It means 'dive over the side'.
It's what most do when attempting to get a Delta. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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TwinCentre wrote: |
Well in my case I am not convinced it made me a better teacher. I was good beforehand. The PGCE did far more, although I took that before I started TEFL. |
Interesting. As I said, I hadn't previously heard of anyone who took the DELTA who didn't feel it made them a better teacher. I stand corrected.
However, a PGCE would naturally cover more ground than the Cambridge dip would offer, so perhaps it is not so surprising that the DELTA didn't do too much for you. But I don't think that too many others in TEFL start off with a PGCE under their belts, so I still believe it makes sense to do a DELTA if EFL is going to be a long-term career choice and you do not have any previous training or higher quals. And while it is true a DELTA doesn't get you much more pay, it does benefit you economically in other ways, e.g. the need time spent on lesson-planning is reduced dramatically. I don't believe that it is merely a cash cow for course providers. It is profitable, to be sure, but it also delivers what it says it will. Not all cash cow courses in TEFL can claim that. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
DOS, Director of Studies.
I'd like to do the DELTA; but all the people I've heard that have took it have struggled, despite being long time teachers. I think I might agree with TwinCentre, it'�s all about the money. |
Being a long time teacher doesn't always mean that those years were spent learning how to be an effective teacher. As the old chestnut has it, do we have ten years' experience, or do we have one year's experience repeated ten times?
Besides, most DELTA course trainees struggle, no matter how good they are. They are supposed to be challenging themselves to reach new standards. A valuable process, I think. |
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TwinCentre
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Mokotow
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sashadroogie wrote: |
TwinCentre wrote: |
Well in my case I am not convinced it made me a better teacher. I was good beforehand. The PGCE did far more, although I took that before I started TEFL. |
Interesting. As I said, I hadn't previously heard of anyone who took the DELTA who didn't feel it made them a better teacher. I stand corrected.
However, a PGCE would naturally cover more ground than the Cambridge dip would offer, so perhaps it is not so surprising that the DELTA didn't do too much for you. But I don't think that too many others in TEFL start off with a PGCE under their belts, so I still believe it makes sense to do a DELTA if EFL is going to be a long-term career choice and you do not have any previous training or higher quals. And while it is true a DELTA doesn't get you much more pay, it does benefit you economically in other ways, e.g. the need time spent on lesson-planning is reduced dramatically. I don't believe that it is merely a cash cow for course providers. It is profitable, to be sure, but it also delivers what it says it will. Not all cash cow courses in TEFL can claim that. |
What I meant to say was that the PGCE was more useful for teaching generally, but not TEFL teaching as I did my PGCE in Music (You can't do it in TEFL anymore). I was simply trying to make a comparison course for course, not a comparison on the effect it had on my teaching.
It was experience which made me a good EFL teacher, and lots of it. Not the DELTA...after all, it only took 8 weeks to do. My 'experience' has taken 15 years to accumulate.
I did the DELTA, got the t-shirt but I stand by my original comment; it is not what people who have done it often make it out to be. Just another very expensive course - maybe useful, maybe not, a lot of box-ticking if I remember correctly. |
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bje
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 527
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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TwinCentre wrote: |
It was experience which made me a good EFL teacher, and lots of it. Not the DELTA...after all, it only took 8 weeks to do. My 'experience' has taken 15 years to accumulate.
I did the DELTA, got the t-shirt but I stand by my original comment; it is not what people who have done it often make it out to be. Just another very expensive course - maybe useful, maybe not, a lot of box-ticking if I remember correctly. |
This concurs with my own experience of doing an intensive DELTA several years ago. I still don't know whether it 'made me a better teacher'. On balance, I'd say it didn't 'harm' my teaching, and it provided another credential of some use when applying for jobs in certain ELT contexts. |
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