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deessell2
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What I did was do another "tour of duty" in Korea then I took my savings and went to Latin America.
It would be tough to go there without any savings as you will need to supplement your earnings if you want to travel.
So, my advice is to make the cash in Korea and spend it in Latin America. |
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FoundWaldo
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| South America. The girls might be a little more feisty, but at least they have an opinion.. |
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Peter258
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| deessell2 wrote: |
What I did was do another "tour of duty" in Korea then I took my savings and went to Latin America.
It would be tough to go there without any savings as you will need to supplement your earnings if you want to travel.
So, my advice is to make the cash in Korea and spend it in Latin America. |
Do a lot of ESL teachers do this? Going to S. America after Korea?
This has been my plan..sort of. I plan on saving up money for 1 or 2 years then backpacking in Central and South America for 5 or 6 months. Hopefully I won't have to spend more than $8,000 for the whole trip(including the flight). |
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Montanaland
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Location: Bakken Oil Field
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:16 am Post subject: s.america |
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From what I've researched the answer is... S. America is for vacation and Play...but not work. The $$ and economic power is shifting over to Asia and the M. East....as the U.S. is in decline. (sorry if I sound doom and gloom  )
Beautiful land is in abundance down in S.A. though! |
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Perilla
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Peter258 wrote: |
| This has been my plan..sort of. I plan on saving up money for 1 or 2 years then backpacking in Central and South America for 5 or 6 months. Hopefully I won't have to spend more than $8,000 for the whole trip(including the flight). |
I backpacked around South America for 13 months on about US$8,000 - but admittedly that was waaaay back in 1990/1. Still, I could have done it on much less - wasn't trying to do it on a shoestring. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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If Vietnam pays that well, how come no one ever mentions it?
Could you save as much in Vietnam as Korea? |
Actually, if you land a decent paying job anywhere in SE Asia you can save as much as or more than you would in Korea because of the much lower cost of living.
I moved from Korea to Thailand, landed a job at 70% of my Korean wage and at the end of the month I typically save about 10% MORE than I did in Korea.
In addition to that I now live in a nice 3 bedroom house instead of a single room officetel. I also eat better; more fresh fruit and veg. I also get 3 1/2 months of paid annual vacation and work fewer classes than I did in Korea.
Bottom line: Look at the WHOLE package AND the costs of living NOT just the initial salary. All those little extra benefits really do add up in a big way.
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Also you are less likely to waste your money on alcohol or other things to keep you happy. Some people in Korea spend a lot of money. If you are happy in Thailand or Vietnam, you are less likely to blow your money. I would say that for the newbie, Korea may promote a not very health lifestyle. |
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Perilla
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| Also you are less likely to waste your money on alcohol or other things to keep you happy. |
Er, alcohol is not necessarily a waste of money. And what's wrong with spending your money if that's what you want to do? In fact, I'd say going out and having some fun is pretty important for most people, and there's nothing wrong with enjoying a few drinks. Too bad that some people I've met down the years spend all their time living like hermits and hoarding money - and are often not very happy. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| There is nothing wrong with going out. But for some life in Korea leads to drinking almost every day. |
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Justin Trullinger
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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From what I've researched the answer is... S. America is for vacation and Play...but not work. |
Worked in Ecuador for 7 years. Couldn't disagree with you more. If you only vacation and play, you're never going to get to know the language, the locals, the beauty and the life, the way you will living and working with it all.
And as a bonus, since it's hard for them to attract good serious teachers, good serious teachers get opportunities they could wait years for in countries with good economies. I made a nice living, earned enough to travel a lot, lived well...and did the sort of work that REALLY made my resume look better upon leaving.
Where I am now, I'm earning a lot more than average, and it's the experience and training I got while in Ecuador that made it possible.
Best,
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Montanaland
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: Masters Degree.... |
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Justin-
I wholeheartedly believe Ecuador and parts of S. America are really nice...although spending more than 3-4 years in SE Asia/N. Asia or Latin America doesn't make any sense after completing your masters and obtaining your first few years of experience in esl.
I going to preach the facts really quick for the newbie�s here: (NOT to be/sound condescending!)
Education just like Medicine comes down to hard Degrees ..meaning you�re either certified or have a MA in Tesol etc. to make this a long-term career. One's goal should be to get to the ME after completing a masters asap and get networking if your wanting to make good money.
I'm studying for the GRE as we speak and my goal is to simply do a reputable distant online M.A. (asap) and acquire 1-3 yrs of experience in a low-cost/fun country. Then it�s off to the me to earn...while "playing in SE Asia or L. America during the 3-6 month breaks.
Finally, I work at a U.S. high school as a non-certified paraprofessional (only have a b.s finance) so I would have to complete a Masters anyhow to get certified in the U.S. ...but no thanks because its on the downturn economically in my opinion.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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I think that it's adorable that we still have dreamers who post on Dave's! You'll note that the amount on the above-listed website does NOT mention currency.
Do you really think that TEFLers working in that backwater make that much USD? 
If they did, we'd ALL be working there...
Sheesh!
NCTBA |
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Montanaland
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: Middle East |
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So your implying that there are other countries out there that pay as much as the Middle East?
Entry-level is around 60k tax free in UAE. Why wouldn't anyone want to do a distant online MA asap? |
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laconic
Joined: 23 May 2005
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Location: "When the Lord made me he made a ramblin man."
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Middle East |
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So your implying that there are other countries out there that pay as much as the Middle East?
Entry-level is around 60k tax free in UAE. Why wouldn't anyone want to do a distant online MA asap? |
How about because a distant online degree may not be acceptable to some employers or government departments in various nations:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=69483&highlight=online+degrees |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
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Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Middle East |
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So your implying that there are other countries out there that pay as much as the Middle East?
No. I'm saying that yer insinuation of such large bucks in Tabuk is asinine...if'n you want clarification.
Entry-level is around 60k tax free in UAE. Why wouldn't anyone want to do a distant online MA asap?
The poster above has answered the second queston. The M.O.H.E. in the U.A.E. DOESN'T recognise distant degrees. Do yer homework and quit talking out of somthing other than MOD EDIT...
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Montanaland
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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Location: Bakken Oil Field
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: USA |
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Laconic,
How about because your confusing the University of Phoenix or ITT Technical Instutute...or some other country.
with...
The University of Missouri
http://mudirect.missouri.edu/degprog/ed-TESOL/_criteria.shtm
A accredited MA is a accredited MA ...and UAE or KSA aren't going to reject the Univ.of Missouri which is from the US which has the BEST schools in the world. Much has to be said about "networking" within the middle east after you meet the requirments also.
I'm sure their are other great accredited programs out there also and the Internet is the way of the future. |
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