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what do you think of this contract??
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aku_tonpa



Joined: 03 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this link
http://www.nakertrans.go.id/perundangan.html,1,230,7
Permenaker Nomor :PER-04/MEN/1994 Tentang Tunjangan Hari Raya Keagamaan

It is in Bahasa and mine is pants, so maybe someone can help.

Apologies in advance if the address is wrong or the document isn't relevant.
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aku_tonpa



Joined: 03 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a friend phone the Ministry of Manpower and ask about Tunjagan hari Raya. They asked if Pasal 2 included expats as perkerja (worker). They were informed that it does.

Next stop HRD.
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flingwing



Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: About the Reply with quote

I'd like to question that contract's penalty clause for leaving early:

"Should you want to terminate the employment contract before the end of its term, there will be a penalty on your part amounting to your 3 month salary which you should pay to the School before the termination, such termination can only be granted if you give the School prior written notice 3 (three) months before your intended termination date".

I have seen another contract that calls for the employee to pay the school the amount of his/her (unworked) salary for the year if not completing the contact. That is, if you left after, say, 4 months, you'd have to pay the school an amount equal to 8 months' of your salary. In this school's case, it had a history of teachers leaving early before contracts were finished.

Question: do you think contract clauses like these would be enforceable if it came to collection attempts?
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malu



Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. It is virtually impossible to enforce collection of a debt through the courts here. It is fairly standard practice to require the FT to repay - pro rata - the visa and permit costs for the portion of the contract not worked but to summarily demand the equivalent of three months' salary is absurd.
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flingwing



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

malu wrote:
. . . but to summarily demand the equivalent of three months' salary is absurd.


Yeah, but don't forget, "absurd" is sometimes Indonesia's middle name. Laughing
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travelNteach



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems more like sometime with a poor command of english trying to write like a lawyer and not really making any sense. there are a couple of ways to intrepret that statement.

at my school, as long as you give 3 months notice, u dont have any penalaites. however, if u give less than 3 months notice, u get docked 1 months salary.
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