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Using a 2nd concurrent passport in KSA (due to Israel stamp)
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kbp4g5



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:08 am    Post subject: Using a 2nd concurrent passport in KSA (due to Israel stamp) Reply with quote

I'll be moving to KSA next month and have already secured a second 2-year concurrent passport from the U.S. State Department to enter KSA, because my first passport has Israeli stamps in it.

1.) Does the KSA passport control turn a blind eye to Americans entering on a 2 year, completely brand new passport? They have got to know that it was issued for this very reason, right?

2.) Would I be risking it big-time if I were to "sneak in" my original passport so that I could have the option of visiting Israel while living in KSA? (obviously covering my tracks by flying in and out of Jordan/Turkey/Egypt, etc...)

Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. I can't find any info pertaining to my particular situation online. All I can find is the obligatory "you can't enter KSA with Israeli stamps" web page.

I'm leaning towards just leaving the original passport at home just to play it safe, but wanted to know what you guys thought.

Cheers.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked I'd think that just the fact of being caught with two valid passports from the same country would be cause enuf for throwing you UNDER the gaol! Shocked

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kbp4g5



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Shocked I'd think that just the fact of being caught with two valid passports from the same country would be cause enuf for throwing you UNDER the gaol! Shocked

NCTBA



Ha, fair enough. The uncertainty of it all is why I'm leaning towards just leaving the first one at home.

NCTBA, I take it you live there now, or have in the past? On a serious note, are you strongly recommending not even attempting this?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son has two passports, but he's a dual-national. I'm no customs official, but I'm pretty darned sure that having two valid passports from the same country...even with the same identity constitutes duplicity...a grave charge in the least and provides proof to another country that the U.S. is offering an official travel document under colour...something that would be VERY embarrassing, indeed!

Even embassy officials, I believe, leave their "personal" passports at home and travel under their "official" passports when undertaking official business. Anybody who can dispute my gut-feeling here, pls. chime in...

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also in saudi



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US passport agency invalidates your old passport when issuing a new passport. I suspect the Saudis and Israelis would detect an invalid US passport.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are suffering from paranoia. But be careful to avoid telling people that you have visited that Place We May Not Name.

And do not let the authorities know that you have two passports. Mind you they have bigger things to worry about. Like the thousands of illegals in KSA. But then you might run across someone who wants to get his own back on the "West" for what has been going on recently.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also in saudi wrote:
The US passport agency invalidates your old passport when issuing a new passport. I suspect the Saudis and Israelis would detect an invalid US passport.

It sounds to me like the US didn't cancel our questioners' old passport. I don't know how one is able to do this.

It seems to me that the problem may come not in Saudi... as a passport is pretty easy to hide... but could one arrive in Jordan/Egypt/Turkey on one passport and then depart to the "Forbidden Destination" with another. I think here is where one could get in trouble.

But we're all just speculating. Personally I wouldn't try it...

VS
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Mia Xanthi



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I share Cleo's perplexity (perplexion? perplexitude?) at the fact that your first passport was not cancelled. Very odd, and if it is suspicious to us, it will be highly suspicious to the KSA authorities. I think you'd probably be safer smuggling in a bottle of whiskey and a pound of fine bacon wrapped in porn magazines...at least those won't have the stamp of the Country that Dare not be Named. The risk of being caught is less (a passport being small) but the consequences could be much greater.

Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I'd also be careful with e-mail and any other correspondence to that country. And again, do not mention your connnections or your visits to anyone, not even colleagues. Someone could use it against you. Sorry, but that is just reality in KSA.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..."Place We May Not Name"...

Aww..c'mon on folks! Call a spade a spade...it's al-quds... There! It's been bespoken of... Very Happy

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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote